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[racechick]

McLaren is broken currently, leadership is responsible for fixing it, yes. Who is the leader at McLaren? What happened to Lewis was an embarrassment, if you can't acknowledge that, then it's hopeless to have a discussion with you about it.

No conspiracy, more like incompetence.

I share these sentiments. "What happened to Lewis was an embarrassment" Honestly, if it were just this one qualifying DQ issue this weekend, we (McLaren fans) may not be as up in arms but McLaren's off-track performance has been downright rubbish since the first race of the season. Granted, Jenson was at the hands of only one cockup but Lewis has had to endure the brunt of it...all stuff that should never happen. Lewis' reaction during the second pit cockup in Bahrain...just shaking his head in absolute amazement...said it all. Almost as if to say, "What next guys?!" For goodness sake, there was another left rear cockup in the pits with Lewis again today!!! The point is, McLaren simply are not ready for 2012 as a top tier team. Whitmarsh may be a good bloke but when the chips are on the table, seems to not be fully in control. I don't sense any real structure from the team. Whitmarsh has a top 3 driver who is great at setting up a car for qualifying and racing, brilliant in qualifying and does amazing things when the car is bad (compared to his team-mates) and what does Whitmarsh do? Brings in another driver and put the emphasis on him (..."and Lewis is still learning"...nice ). So, several teams have clawed back whatever advantage McLaren had from the start in Australia and where is Jenson now? Struggling with the car on softs and hards while Lewis is consistently getting the car right for both quali and race.

So, What's Burning is correct in the above statement—McLaren is indeed broken. Problem is, I struggle to see them changing for the better suddenly...which means we can expect more rubbish weekends to come. By the time they slowly begin to get things right, they may find themselves deep on the ugly side of the season when both Championships are well beyond reach. Too little too late.

For the non-McLaren F1 fans, I beg your indulgence for my rant. This is just the level of frustration McLaren fans feel right now.

Said it all really.

Very good post!

[The Second Coming]

McLaren is broken currently, leadership is responsible for fixing it, yes. Who is the leader at McLaren? What happened to Lewis was an embarrassment, if you can't acknowledge that, then it's hopeless to have a discussion with you about it.

No conspiracy, more like incompetence.

I share these sentiments. "What happened to Lewis was an embarrassment" Honestly, if it were just this one qualifying DQ issue this weekend, we (McLaren fans) may not be as up in arms but McLaren's off-track performance has been downright rubbish since the first race of the season. Granted, Jenson was at the hands of only one cockup but Lewis has had to endure the brunt of it...all stuff that should never happen. Lewis' reaction during the second pit cockup in Bahrain...just shaking his head in absolute amazement...said it all. Almost as if to say, "What next guys?!" For goodness sake, there was another left rear cockup in the pits with Lewis again today!!! The point is, McLaren simply are not ready for 2012 as a top tier team. Whitmarsh may be a good bloke but when the chips are on the table, seems to not be fully in control. I don't sense any real structure from the team. Whitmarsh has a top 3 driver who is great at setting up a car for qualifying and racing, brilliant in qualifying and does amazing things when the car is bad (compared to his team-mates) and what does Whitmarsh do? Brings in another driver and put the emphasis on him (..."and Lewis is still learning"...nice ). So, several teams have clawed back whatever advantage McLaren had from the start in Australia and where is Jenson now? Struggling with the car on softs and hards while Lewis is consistently getting the car right for both quali and race.

So, What's Burning is correct in the above statement—McLaren is indeed broken. Problem is, I struggle to see them changing for the better suddenly...which means we can expect more rubbish weekends to come. By the time they slowly begin to get things right, they may find themselves deep on the ugly side of the season when both Championships are well beyond reach. Too little too late.

For the non-McLaren F1 fans, I beg your indulgence for my rant. This is just the level of frustration McLaren fans feel right now.

Said it all really.

Very good post!

Tanx. I'll go have a martini now.

[andrew]

Tanx. I'll go have a martini now.

Martini is it?

[The Second Coming]

Tanx. I'll go have a martini now.

Martini is it?

Indeed. Three olives, definitely shaken.

[andrew]

Tanx. I'll go have a martini now.

Martini is it?

Indeed. Three olives, definitely shaken.

Do you want your Martini shaken or throttled?

[darwin dali]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

[Hammer278]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

He said "car", not "team"...

[EagleF1-27]

I wonder. Sam Michael left Williams and joined McLaren and look at how both teams fortunes have changed recently. Coincidence? Frank even said one of the reasons his team has improved was change in personnel.

[Hammer278]

I wonder. Sam Michael left Williams and joined McLaren and look at how both teams fortunes have changed recently. Coincidence? Frank even said one of the reasons his team has improved was change in personnel.

I was wondering this after qualifying actually. Firstly, I wondered why McLaren would hire someone who only contributed to the severe downfall of a once top team. At least, he was a big part of it.

[f1ea]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

Correction: "As of Monaco, Mclaren need to get their cars (preferably Lewis) in the position I WANT to see em finish. Otherwise, I will throw a hissy fit and complain about a conspiracy."

so basically... how can you say they deserve 1st over the teams who are doing a... better job and possibly have a better car & better drivers?????

Lewis is 8pts from P1. In the current 25-pt per win scenario..... all that matters is that Mclaren stay in the game and not get clustered. Lewis made the best possible out of his last place start. Things like this is what keeps the championships open when there's no definite best car, not even the MP24 which you claim it to be.

[What's Burning?]

For Monaco, I was thinking... if they mixed up one of Jenson's tires with one of Lewis' tires in the pits, they could get BOTH drivers disqualified in one shot and immediately squelch all conspiracy rumors while at the same time perpetuate the perception of incompetence in the pits. Brilliant! The icing would be to wait until Hamilton is leading and Jenson is in 9th place to put the plan into action.

[bud]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

Correction: "As of Monaco, Mclaren need to get their cars (preferably Lewis) in the position I WANT to see em finish. Otherwise, I will throw a hissy fit and complain about a conspiracy."

so basically... how can you say they deserve 1st over the teams who are doing a... better job and possibly have a better car & better drivers?????

Lewis is 8pts from P1. In the current 25-pt per win scenario..... all that matters is that Mclaren stay in the game and not get clustered. Lewis made the best possible out of his last place start. Things like this is what keeps the championships open when there's no definite best car, not even the MP24 which you claim it to be.

Maybe he means start from the front row when you qualify there... And it's the MP4-27 we arent in 2009.

[LewEngBridewell]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

Do you wanna take this outside DD?

[darwin dali]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

Do you wanna take this outside DD?

[LewEngBridewell]

As of Monaco, McLaren need to get their car to the finish in the position it DESERVES to be in. Which, at the moment, is still first.

Deserve??? How do you figure this one? Ludicrous! The pit team is sh!te, so they don't 'deserve' first.

Do you wanna take this outside DD?