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#299421
Is it very common for the first 3 races to have 3 different winners?


Happened in: 2010, '08, '07, '03, '99, before that '90, '86, '85, '84 AND '83, i didn't look back past 1982. So it would seem it's becoming more common since the last 25 years...

Is it very common for a season to see a first time winner?


Moderately. I think Rosberg is the 103rd GP winner in 62ish seasons. The last 'new winners' were Webber in '09, Vettel, Kovalainen and Kubica in '08, Hamilton '07, Massa and Button '06, Trulli '04, Raikkonen, Alonso and Fisichella in '03 and so on. Didn't go back further than that but you quickly see Ralf, Montoya etc.
#299441
Grosjean or the Sauber duo could be a good bet.
#299573
So you think there will be any new first time race winners this year??

Perhaps maybe either driver from Sauber if conditions play into there hands.


I'm not holding my breath about either lotus or sauber doing it, based on their history of falling farther and farther back over a season last year. Sauber has limited budgets so they can come out swinging strong then have a hard time sustaining it, and lotus is going through turbulent times with genii capital and all that.

But I'm not saying it's not possible!! I'd be pleasantly surprised if it happens!!
#299682
Why would it be a worry if he was Chinese?

Because in Chinese culture, the number four is considered an unlucky number.


And 8's are considered very lucky.
#299695
Cheers DD


What is the maximum number of different winners have we seen in a season? Also Kovi must be on the list of one of the only drivers apart from KAR to be placed 23rd
#299699
Cheers DD


What is the maximum number of different winners have we seen in a season? Also Kovi must be on the list of one of the only drivers apart from KAR to be placed 23rd



The most open of F1 seasons was 1982, when no fewer than 11 different drivers stood on top of the podium. Alain Prost, in a Renault, won the first two races, before Niki Lauda (McLaren) won at Long Beach, Didier Pironi (Ferrari) at Imola, John Watson (McLaren) in Belgium, and Riccardo Patrese (Brabham) in Monaco. Watson won again in Detroit before Nelson Piquet (Brabham) triumphed in Canada. Repeat wins for Lauda and Pironi in Holland and Britain were followed by victory for Rene Arnoux (Renault) in France, Patrick Tambay (Ferrari) in Germany, Elio de Angelis (Lotus) in Austria and Keke Rosberg (Williams) at the Swiss GP at Dijon. Arnoux won at Monza, then the season was rounded off with victory for Michele Alboreto (Tyrrell) in the Caesar's Palace GP in Las Vegas. Rosberg's solitary victory, allied to consistent points-scoring through the year, was enough to earn him the world championship
#299712
Cheers DD


What is the maximum number of different winners have we seen in a season? Also Kovi must be on the list of one of the only drivers apart from KAR to be placed 23rd



The most open of F1 seasons was 1982, when no fewer than 11 different drivers stood on top of the podium. Alain Prost, in a Renault, won the first two races, before Niki Lauda (McLaren) won at Long Beach, Didier Pironi (Ferrari) at Imola, John Watson (McLaren) in Belgium, and Riccardo Patrese (Brabham) in Monaco. Watson won again in Detroit before Nelson Piquet (Brabham) triumphed in Canada. Repeat wins for Lauda and Pironi in Holland and Britain were followed by victory for Rene Arnoux (Renault) in France, Patrick Tambay (Ferrari) in Germany, Elio de Angelis (Lotus) in Austria and Keke Rosberg (Williams) at the Swiss GP at Dijon. Arnoux won at Monza, then the season was rounded off with victory for Michele Alboreto (Tyrrell) in the Caesar's Palace GP in Las Vegas. Rosberg's solitary victory, allied to consistent points-scoring through the year, was enough to earn him the world championship


Good diggin'... I remember I asked the question one in our trivia section, but about how many different constructors had won so I had researched that, not how many different drivers.
#299822
Brill stats mnmracer! Fascinating reading. :)
#299825
Is it very common for a season to see a first time winner?

Usually it comes in 'waves' a little, which makes sense considering with how little top teams usually change drivers.
Most new winners in a season was 1982, with 5 new winners. 1951, 1959 and 1975 had 4 new winners. Not completely surprisingly, 1951 had the best ratio, with an average new winner every other race (they had 8 races).

1982 - 5 new winners
#69 - Riccardo Patrese - 1982 Monaco Grand Prix
#70 - Patrick Tambay - 1982 German Grand Prix
#71 - Elio de Angelis - 1982 Austrian Grand Prix
#72 - Keke Rosberg - 1982 Swiss Grand Prix
#73 - Michelle Alboreto - 1982 Caesars Palace Grand Prix

1951 - 4 new winners
#4 - Lee Wallard - 1951 Indianapolis 500
#5 - Luigi Fagioli - 1951 French Grand Prix
#6 - José Froilán González - 1951 British Grand Prix
#7 - Alberto Ascari - 1951 German Grand Prix

1959 - 4 new winners
#21 - Jack Brabham - 1959 Monaco Grand Prix
#22 - Rodger Ward - 1959 Indianapolis 500
#23 - Joakim Bonnier - 1959 Dutch Grand Prix
#24 - Bruce McLaren - 1959 United States Grand Prix

1975 - 4 new winners
#54 - Carlos Pace - 1975 Brazilian Grand Prix
#55 - Jochen Mass - 1975 Spanish Grand Prix
#56 - James Hunt - 1975 Dutch Grand Prix
#57 - Vittorio Brambilla - 1975 Austrian Grand Prix


These are the 'first winners' of the last 25 years, of which 2003 and 2008 were the best years for new winners, with 3 each. 4 out of 6 of the new winners from those years are of course now world champions.
#77 - Thierry Boutsen - 1989 Canadian Grand Prix
#78 - Alessandro Nannini - 1989 Japanese Grand Prix
#79 - Michael Schumacher - 1992 Belgian Grand Prix
#80 - Damon Hill - 1993 Hungarian Grand Prix
#81 - Jean Alesi - 1995 Canadian Grand Prix
#82 - Johnny Herbert - 1995 British Grand Prix
#83 - David Coulthard - 1995 Portuguese Grand Prix
#84 - Jacques Villeneuve - 1996 European Grand Prix
#85 - Olivier Panis - 1996 Monaco Grand Prix
#86 - Heinz-Harald Frentzen - 1997 San Marino Grand Prix
#87 - Mika Häkkinen - 1997 European Grand Prix
#88 - Eddie Irvine - 1999 Australian Grand Prix
#89 - Rubens Barichello - 2000 German Grand Prix
#90 - Ralf Schumacher - 2001 San Marino Grand Prix
#91 - Juan Pablo Montoya - 2001 Italian Grand Prix
#92 - Kimi Räikkönen - 2003 Malaysian Grand Prix
#93 - Giancarlo Fisischella - 2003 Brazilian Grand Prix
#94 - Fernando Alonso - 2003 Hungarian Grand Prix
#95 - Jarno Trulli - 2004 Monaco Grand Prix
#96 - Jenson Button - 2006 Hungarian Grand Prix
#97 - Felipe Massa - 2006 Turkish Grand Prix
#98 - Lewis Hamilton - 2007 Canadian Grand Prix
#99 - Robert Kubica - 2008 Canadian Grand Prix
#100 - Heikki Kovalainen - 2008 Hungarian Grand Prix
#101 - Sebastian Vettel - 2008 Italian Grand Prix
#102 - Mark Webber - 2009 German Grand Prix
#103 - Nico Rosberg - 2012 Chinese Grand Prix
#299939
Interesting list. 2010 & 2011 shows the dominance of the top three teams at the time (Red Bull, McLaren and Ferrari) and the consistency they upheld with their driver line-ups. Rosberg is a refreshing new winner, and about time too, both for him and F1! :)

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