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[racechick]

Big article about him in last weeks Sunday Times. he didnt come out too favourably

The interview one? I read that. He came across quite meek especially in relation to his daughters.

Yes, the lady interviewer. I thought he came over as plain wierd.

[LewEngBridewell]

Big article about him in last weeks Sunday Times. he didnt come out too favourably

The interview one? I read that. He came across quite meek especially in relation to his daughters.

Yes, the lady interviewer. I thought he came over as plain wierd.

Nothing new there then...

[racechick]

Big article about him in last weeks Sunday Times. he didnt come out too favourably

The interview one? I read that. He came across quite meek especially in relation to his daughters.

Yes, the lady interviewer. I thought he came over as plain wierd.

Nothing new there then...

Nope

[andrew]

It all comes down to money though. MrE will quite rightly sell his product to the highest bidder.

You need to realize that the racing isn't Mr. Ecclestone's product. The viewing public are his product. If he doesn't have good races for us and the fans in the stands to watch then he won't make all his sweet, sweet money from the advertisers and race promoters.

He sells a product (F1) to various venues so it is his product until someone else buys the commercial rights. F1 will always attract an audience. You just have to look at the number of races that most of us watch fully in the knowledge that it is going to be a yawn-fest in the off chance that something interesting happens.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Bernie is selling YOU and the RACING to the Advertisers / Broadcasting Rights holders. He is not selling Formula 1 to the venues. That is just a nice side deal.

No you were perfectly clear but you seem to be struggling with understadning what I'm saying (see I can be patronising too, but lets not do that and keep the thread in a happy place).

You are talking about TV rights and wotnot. I'm looking at the selling of the race to any particular venue. If the opportunity to sell the right to host an F1 race wasn't sold to a venue then there would be nothing to sell to advertisers would there?

[calvins48]

As much as Bernie loves the dolla, I still have massive respect for what he's done for the sport.

Bernie and Enzo Ferrari are the two greatest of all time in motorsport.

[Frontrunner]

Get rid of Valencia all together would be better. Catalunya is a okay circuit, only the chicane before the last corner that ruins the circuit for me, the last 2 corners were awesome before they made the F1 cars take the chicane. but still and okay track, nothing more.

[LewEngBridewell]

I think F1 journalist and author Bruce Jones sums up the Circuit de Catalunya pretty well in the latest BBC Sport Preview book.

The Circuit de Catalunya is a great DRIVING circuit, with a wide range of corners to entertain the driver. However, it is not, and never has been, a great RACING circuit, instead being a circuit on which the drivers only really have Turn 1 to offer them a chance of passing the car ahead.

While I will jump to the circuit's defence, and say that there were a good few passes through Turns 10 to 12 last year, I've never been a fan of Barcelona, having always regarded it as a painfully dull circuit. Just my personal opinion. I'm happy that the alternating situation is going ahead.

[scotty]

Obviously not gutted by this news, but if the replacement track is also crap then it's back to square one!

[Bubbie]

It all comes down to money though. MrE will quite rightly sell his product to the highest bidder.

You need to realize that the racing isn't Mr. Ecclestone's product. The viewing public are his product. If he doesn't have good races for us and the fans in the stands to watch then he won't make all his sweet, sweet money from the advertisers and race promoters.

He sells a product (F1) to various venues so it is his product until someone else buys the commercial rights. F1 will always attract an audience. You just have to look at the number of races that most of us watch fully in the knowledge that it is going to be a yawn-fest in the off chance that something interesting happens.

Maybe I wasn't clear. Bernie is selling YOU and the RACING to the Advertisers / Broadcasting Rights holders. He is not selling Formula 1 to the venues. That is just a nice side deal.

No you were perfectly clear but you seem to be struggling with understadning what I'm saying (see I can be patronising too, but lets not do that and keep the thread in a happy place).

You are talking about TV rights and wotnot. I'm looking at the selling of the race to any particular venue. If the opportunity to sell the right to host an F1 race wasn't sold to a venue then there would be nothing to sell to advertisers would there?

Without viewers neither the advertisers nor the venues would touch F1. That is why I say you are the product, not the consumer of the product. Bernie is selling you to the venues and advertisers. Your original statement was that the racing is what Bernie is selling and that was what I was responding to.