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[LRW]

Not once did Vettel in that article say 'McLaren are the biggest threat'... he said they look strong but then he was also complimentary about Lotus. So YET ANOTHER article that people are drawing tangential conclusions from

I think you'll find that the artical was the first one to state "Vettle says Mclaren is the biggest threat". Now, of course, that doenst mean Vettle said that, but we are discussing the artical. So technically it was the artical writer who was making tangential conclusions.

Why do some people on here insist on being so pedantic, and just get a bit more involved.

Whenever I read posts like the one above I tend to read them in a nerdy/trainspotting voice. Becasue thats how it is coming across.

[Hammer278]

It's the offseason....with more than 3 weeks left. Call it sheer passion on the verge of being unleashed and you might get it.

[andrew]

Nope read it to check that I hadn't missed anything given the misleading OP.

[scotty]

Not once did Vettel in that article say 'McLaren are the biggest threat'... he said they look strong but then he was also complimentary about Lotus. So YET ANOTHER article that people are drawing tangential conclusions from

I think you'll find that the artical was the first one to state "Vettle says Mclaren is the biggest threat". Now, of course, that doenst mean Vettle said that, but we are discussing the artical. So technically it was the artical writer who was making tangential conclusions.

Why do some people on here insist on being so pedantic, and just get a bit more involved.

Whenever I read posts like the one above I tend to read them in a nerdy/trainspotting voice. Becasue thats how it is coming across.

Right back at you on how things come across. Lame comment. You are being just as pedantic there, in spite of the fact that you missed my point entirely and also evidently didn't even read my post properly. "Not once did Vettel in that article say..." I am just making the point that people seem to be taking articles that are misquoting drivers as gospel, then everyone kicks off about it unnecessarily. Not just in this thread but it has happened elsewhere loads too - so i am not having a go at anyone in particular before anyone else gets defensive.

[bud]

Every news article be it Sport, Sciences or politics is manipulated by the writer to tell their story. Quotes are used, contexts are not.

From the quotes Vettel gave, the story should have been... "Vettel doesn't know a thing about the other teams test pace".
Probably wouldn't get many hits.

[LRW]

Right back at you on how things come across. Lame comment. You are being just as pedantic there, in spite of the fact that you missed my point entirely and also evidently didn't even read my post properly. "Not once did Vettel in that article say..." I am just making the point that people seem to be taking articles that are misquoting drivers as gospel, then everyone kicks off about it unnecessarily. Not just in this thread but it has happened elsewhere loads too - so i am not having a go at anyone in particular before anyone else gets defensive.

You know what. You gave got a point. Sometimes I react too quickly and should think a bit more.

I guess I didn't really give it the benefit of the doubt. So apologies.

[myownalias]

Misquotes aside; I read absolutely nothing into testing pace, just as a read nothing into Free Practice 1 & 2 pace. The true indicator will be Qualifying in Melbourne when they are on the same fuel loads and probably tyres, but yes more than likely McLaren will be the biggest threat again this season, Ferrari are disappointed with their car already, doesn't bode well for the season!

[racechick]

Well. Im very sorry so many people are getting upset about what Vettel may or may not have said about McLaren being or not being the threat in the coming season. Of course we wont know till the first race, but does that mean we cant discuss what people think?
Here's a tweet from the track from Martin Brundle to stir things up a little more

1000km in 2 days at Barcelona + Lewis saying car is very good in high speed corners bodes well for McL. That track challenges aero quality......

50+ Retweets

[Hammer278]

Won't it be awesome if McLaren just turn up and dominate the first 2 or 3 races....I want to see how long the 'Vettel fans' will remain Vettel fans.

[geetface9]

Won't it be awesome if McLaren just turn up and dominate the first 2 or 3 races....I want to see how long the 'Vettel fans' will remain Vettel fans.

You forgot to mention 'and mark webber close behind them leading his teammate' and then we'll really see some ruffled feathers

[LewEngBridewell]

Won't it be awesome if McLaren just turn up and dominate the first 2 or 3 races....I want to see how long the 'Vettel fans' will remain Vettel fans.

It won't take long for them all to jump ship! Who can't be won over by the sleek, beautiful design of the almighty McLaren, leading the way in terms of aesthetic satisfaction!

[andrew]

Won't it be awesome if McLaren just turn up and dominate the first 2 or 3 races....I want to see how long the 'Vettel fans' will remain Vettel fans.

It won't take long for them all to jump ship! Who can't be won over by the sleek, beautiful design of the almighty McLaren, leading the way in terms of aesthetic satisfaction!

I'd sooner support Ferrari than McLaren.

[What's Burning?]

Won't it be awesome if McLaren just turn up and dominate the first 2 or 3 races....I want to see how long the 'Vettel fans' will remain Vettel fans.

It won't take long for them all to jump ship! Who can't be won over by the sleek, beautiful design of the almighty McLaren, leading the way in terms of aesthetic satisfaction!

I'd sooner support Ferrari than McLaren.

Is that because they're not such a threat to Red Bull?

[f1ea]

[vlad]

Vettel expects 'closer' season

Sebastian Vettel predicts a close season in F1 2012

Sebastian Vettel has said he expects to see a closer battle between the top teams during the 2012 F1 season after completing his testing work in the second pre-season session of the year in Barcelona.

Vettel has now spent three days at the wheel of the new RB8 in preparation for the upcoming campaign, when he will attempt to lift the title for the third successive season.

The German admitted it was going to take Red Bull time to get the kinds of grip it found last year given the change in exhaust regulations for this season, but said he didn't think the true pecking order would be seen until the second round of the season in Malaysia.

“The biggest difference is that the cars have less grip, which will make us slower than last year,” he said in an interview with F1.com. “Last season the way we incorporated the exhaust was very cleverly devised. It made the car faster by generating more grip, but it's a thing of the past in 2012 and for now we have to live with it. I would say that goes for all the other teams as well. We are looking into ways of getting that grip level back and I am sure we will succeed, although it will take time.

“[Last year] was beyond comparison. It was something you would think was a one-off, something you probably wouldn't even dare to dream of - and it happened to us! But, overall, the season was a fantastic year for the whole of Formula One. We saw great races and sizzling overtaking, so I would say that we provided a super show. Of course we hope to do it again this season. My guess is that the performance of the cars will be even closer this year, especially the gap between the front-running teams and the midfield. We will probably even see a few surprises. But it is too early to ink predictions and it will not be before Malaysia - on a 'normal' track - that any pecking order will begin to come into focus.”

Vettel admitted that the early running for the new Red Bull hadn't been without issues, after some problems were discovered in Jerez last week, but said the 'problems' were ones that would easily be resolved.

“What we are doing right now is eliminating any teething problems and focusing on reliability,” he said. “If you ask me what teething problems, then I can tell you that at Jerez we had some electronic issues. We have identified that problem and now we are working to solve it. The words 'problem' and 'issue' sound so serious but what we are looking at has nothing to do with the weight of those words.

“The genuine feeling is good but you should never bank on feelings in F1! I guess I don't have to say that we want to be faster than the rest. So let's wait and see, but as the same design whizz who created the RB6 and RB7 also created the RB8 we have the best possible pedigree.”

Source:
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