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[What's Burning?]

I agree with the OP to an extent....the way people hype up Alonso compared to Massa is amazing. Yeah, he did great last season...but outperforming the car? What is he, God? I don't think so, the natural laws of physics still apply to him as far as I'm concerned! Alonso did as good a job as the car could do, full stop. But there are at least 3-4 drivers on the grid who could've done that job as well.

Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement and what every driver dreams of doing at the start of the season. And as McLaren (the poster) says, what has Webber really achieved anyway? I personally don't care about the gap between Vettel and Webber, same as not caring about Alonso and Massa! "Massa"...lol.

Wow Hammer! A red-letter day indeed, you giving a fantastic compliment to Fernando, I think I'll frame your words

Let me quote "Alonso did as good a job as the car could do .... Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement"

You should know better spanky, no one wants to beat a paper tiger.

[Hammer278]

I agree with the OP to an extent....the way people hype up Alonso compared to Massa is amazing. Yeah, he did great last season...but outperforming the car? What is he, God? I don't think so, the natural laws of physics still apply to him as far as I'm concerned! Alonso did as good a job as the car could do, full stop. But there are at least 3-4 drivers on the grid who could've done that job as well.

Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement and what every driver dreams of doing at the start of the season. And as McLaren (the poster) says, what has Webber really achieved anyway? I personally don't care about the gap between Vettel and Webber, same as not caring about Alonso and Massa! "Massa"...lol.

Wow Hammer! A red-letter day indeed, you giving a fantastic compliment to Fernando, I think I'll frame your words

Let me quote "Alonso did as good a job as the car could do .... Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement"

I still managed to keep the words "Alonso" and "fantastic achievement" in separate sentences.

[LewEngBridewell]

Ah, it's this good old neck of the woods again! There's no doubting that Vettel is bloody good, and Webber will need to address this next season. I imagine the Australian has worked like buggery over the winter to get himself into shape for a more competitive 2012, which I dearly hope arises. Alonso outdriving the car? Not really, it's just that Massa was crap. Ferrari was in a bad shape last season, and that's all there is to it.

If Red Bull start 2012 where they left off, then Vettel will take some beating. If McLaren, Ferrari or indeed any other team have caught up, then things should get interesting.

[racechick]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

[What's Burning?]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

[andrew]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

They were interesting to all F1 fans! I've gone through seasons where the team(s)/driver(s) I support have not done well and still found the season interesting. I can't understand a true F1 fan not finding F1 interesting at any point.

[racechick]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

They were interesting to all F1 fans! I've gone through seasons where the team(s)/driver(s) I support have not done well and still found the season interesting. I can't understand a true F1 fan not finding F1 interesting at any point.

But there's interesting and there's INTERESTING. Three top drivers in similar cars is INTERESTING. A top driver in a dominant car is interesting

[andrew]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

They were interesting to all F1 fans! I've gone through seasons where the team(s)/driver(s) I support have not done well and still found the season interesting. I can't understand a true F1 fan not finding F1 interesting at any point.

But there's interesting and there's INTERESTING. Three top drivers in similar cars is INTERESTING. A top driver in a dominant car is interesting

F1 is always interesting for an F1 fan. I know this from a die hard Hamilton/McLaren fan that I used to work with and the years of being a Schumacher fan and seeing those bloody McLarens win twice (but at least it was with Hakkinen).

I fail to see how a driver and a team performing at thier absolute best is boring.

[racechick]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

They were interesting to all F1 fans! I've gone through seasons where the team(s)/driver(s) I support have not done well and still found the season interesting. I can't understand a true F1 fan not finding F1 interesting at any point.

But there's interesting and there's INTERESTING. Three top drivers in similar cars is INTERESTING. A top driver in a dominant car is interesting

F1 is always interesting for an F1 fan. I know this from a die hard Hamilton/McLaren fan that I used to work with and the years of being a Schumacher fan and seeing those bloody McLarens win twice (but at least it was with Hakkinen).

I fail to see how a driver and a team performing at thier absolute best is boring.

I didnt say it was boring, I said it was interesting...as opposed to knicker wetting exciting

[andrew]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

They were interesting to all F1 fans! I've gone through seasons where the team(s)/driver(s) I support have not done well and still found the season interesting. I can't understand a true F1 fan not finding F1 interesting at any point.

But there's interesting and there's INTERESTING. Three top drivers in similar cars is INTERESTING. A top driver in a dominant car is interesting

F1 is always interesting for an F1 fan. I know this from a die hard Hamilton/McLaren fan that I used to work with and the years of being a Schumacher fan and seeing those bloody McLarens win twice (but at least it was with Hakkinen).

I fail to see how a driver and a team performing at thier absolute best is boring.

I didnt say it was boring, I said it was interesting...as opposed to knicker wetting exciting

Nah, it's always interesting but I draw the line at knicker wettingly exciting - very few things in life are that exciting.

[racechick]

I dooooo hope they get interesting!

They were interesting to all the Vettel fans.

They were interesting to all F1 fans! I've gone through seasons where the team(s)/driver(s) I support have not done well and still found the season interesting. I can't understand a true F1 fan not finding F1 interesting at any point.

But there's interesting and there's INTERESTING. Three top drivers in similar cars is INTERESTING. A top driver in a dominant car is interesting

F1 is always interesting for an F1 fan. I know this from a die hard Hamilton/McLaren fan that I used to work with and the years of being a Schumacher fan and seeing those bloody McLarens win twice (but at least it was with Hakkinen).

I fail to see how a driver and a team performing at thier absolute best is boring.

I didnt say it was boring, I said it was interesting...as opposed to knicker wetting exciting

Nah, it's always interesting but I draw the line at knicker wettingly exciting - very few things in life are that exciting.

You have a lot to learn!!

[kerc]

I agree with the OP to an extent....the way people hype up Alonso compared to Massa is amazing. Yeah, he did great last season...but outperforming the car? What is he, God? I don't think so, the natural laws of physics still apply to him as far as I'm concerned! Alonso did as good a job as the car could do, full stop. But there are at least 3-4 drivers on the grid who could've done that job as well.

Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement and what every driver dreams of doing at the start of the season. And as McLaren (the poster) says, what has Webber really achieved anyway? I personally don't care about the gap between Vettel and Webber, same as not caring about Alonso and Massa! "Massa"...lol.

I think everyone here knows that Alonso is one of those drivers that really squeeze the performance of a car to the last drop.

[LewEngBridewell]

I agree with the OP to an extent....the way people hype up Alonso compared to Massa is amazing. Yeah, he did great last season...but outperforming the car? What is he, God? I don't think so, the natural laws of physics still apply to him as far as I'm concerned! Alonso did as good a job as the car could do, full stop. But there are at least 3-4 drivers on the grid who could've done that job as well.

Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement and what every driver dreams of doing at the start of the season. And as McLaren (the poster) says, what has Webber really achieved anyway? I personally don't care about the gap between Vettel and Webber, same as not caring about Alonso and Massa! "Massa"...lol.

I think everyone here knows that Alonso is one of those drivers that really squeeze the performance of a car to the last drop.

Even when he claims to have "given up"!

[racechick]

I agree with the OP to an extent....the way people hype up Alonso compared to Massa is amazing. Yeah, he did great last season...but outperforming the car? What is he, God? I don't think so, the natural laws of physics still apply to him as far as I'm concerned! Alonso did as good a job as the car could do, full stop. But there are at least 3-4 drivers on the grid who could've done that job as well.

Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement and what every driver dreams of doing at the start of the season. And as McLaren (the poster) says, what has Webber really achieved anyway? I personally don't care about the gap between Vettel and Webber, same as not caring about Alonso and Massa! "Massa"...lol.

I think everyone here knows that Alonso is one of those drivers that really squeeze the performance of a car to the last drop.

Even when he claims to have "given up"!

He has his great days, he has his off days, he has his cant be bothered days and he has his stupid mistake days...just like the rest of them.

[andrew]

I agree with the OP to an extent....the way people hype up Alonso compared to Massa is amazing. Yeah, he did great last season...but outperforming the car? What is he, God? I don't think so, the natural laws of physics still apply to him as far as I'm concerned! Alonso did as good a job as the car could do, full stop. But there are at least 3-4 drivers on the grid who could've done that job as well.

Same thing with Vettel, I think he did as good a job as what that Redbull could do. Which is a fantastic achievement and what every driver dreams of doing at the start of the season. And as McLaren (the poster) says, what has Webber really achieved anyway? I personally don't care about the gap between Vettel and Webber, same as not caring about Alonso and Massa! "Massa"...lol.

I think everyone here knows that Alonso is one of those drivers that really squeeze the performance of a car to the last drop.

Even when he claims to have "given up"!

He has his great days, he has his off days, he has his cant be bothered days and he has his stupid mistake days...just like the rest of them.

Thought you were away to start singing Tubthumping by Chumbawamba.

Emotions do see to run high with Alonso on some occasions but to write him off is usually quite foolish.