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[racechick]

Well actually testicle implants too. Im talking about the PIP implants that are not medically sound and have to be removed. Big news in Britain and Europe...Im not sure about the rest of the world. Who should foot the bill? The client? The private clinic? The government?. The government have said they will remove and replace all NHS fitted implants. Some private clinics will but some wont...they say it will bankrupt them. So who should pay?

[scotty]

Sure as hell shouldn't be the taxpayer!

[Selcouth_Feline]

Sure as hell shouldn't be the taxpayer!

The ONLY people who should be allowed to have their implants removed are those who have had masectomies; if it was for cosmetic reasons only, there is no way the NHS should have to pay.

I'm surprised a lot of the private clinics who are refusing to replace the implants don't have some sort of medical insurance to cover issues like this?

[racechick]

Im also of this view. And all NHS patients will be treated. But the water is muddied somewhat by the fact that the implants were passed by the British medical board(dont remeber the exact name) as fit for purpose. Which they werent. So they also failed to do their job properly. The implants also carried a European kite mark.The PIPS manufacutrers went into receivership. So no redress there.

[Selcouth_Feline]

Even so, isn't this what insurance is meant to cover?! I can half understand that some clinics are balking at the numbers of patients they have to deal with as it isn't feasible to treat them all in the next couple of months, but surely they would be able to farm the work out to other clinics with capacity to spare?

[andrew]

If the person has had an implant(s) for medical reasons then they shouldn't have to pay out of their own pocket.

If the person that had an implant(s) for no other reason than sheer vanity (pathteic) then they should be charged a huge amount.

[f1ea]

Aw... I thought the thread was about something else....

Anyways......... if its not medical, you pay for your own boob job or get some sort of private insurance that does cover for it.

[andrew]

OT, but all teams can have a B-team if they wish. Just the same as all teams can have a private test track if they wish.

Back to discussing fake boobs and fake nadgers and the replacement of.

[stonemonkey]

The government has said patients who had their surgery on the NHS would be able to have the implants removed and replaced free of charge.
The NHS will also pay to remove, but not replace, implants if a private clinic refuses or no longer exists.
A review has also been set up into the regulation and governance of the cosmetic surgery sector.
But Earl Howe cautioned how effective regulation could be where there is a "deliberate effort" to conceal facts from inspectors.
Independent crossbench peer Baroness Morgan of Drefelin said the PIP breast implants scare was causing "huge" concern for women with breast cancer.
She told peers that women diagnosed with breast cancer, treated privately and refused help from a private practitioner could only have their implants removed by the NHS, not replaced or reconstructed.
"I don't think that's right and I hope you will be able to reconsider that," she told Earl Howe.

What a mess, someone's really made a huge boob. As pointed out not all private jobs are purely for reasons of vanity.

[andrew]

The government has said patients who had their surgery on the NHS would be able to have the implants removed and replaced free of charge.
The NHS will also pay to remove, but not replace, implants if a private clinic refuses or no longer exists.
A review has also been set up into the regulation and governance of the cosmetic surgery sector.
But Earl Howe cautioned how effective regulation could be where there is a "deliberate effort" to conceal facts from inspectors.
Independent crossbench peer Baroness Morgan of Drefelin said the PIP breast implants scare was causing "huge" concern for women with breast cancer.
She told peers that women diagnosed with breast cancer, treated privately and refused help from a private practitioner could only have their implants removed by the NHS, not replaced or reconstructed.
"I don't think that's right and I hope you will be able to reconsider that," she told Earl Howe.

What a mess, someone's really made a huge boob. As pointed out not all private jobs are purely for reasons of vanity.

It is indeed a balls up.

[racechick]

Women implanted on the NHS, which will be for medical reasons, will be taken care of, the NHS also said they will operate on anyone who has had it done at a private clinic and is in immediate danger, then they will claim back from the private clinic.
Of the women that had it done purely for cosmetic reasons, Part of me thinks well they paid to have it done, now they dont want it they should pay to have it removed. But another side of me says that these women entered into a deal in good faith and were sold faulty goods. If you bought a car and the brakes failed through a faulty component the garage that supplied the car would be the person you'd go to, its who you entered into the contract with.Im a bit torn on this. But I dont think the NHS should have to foot the bill.

EDIT-sorry I see someone has just posted some of what I was writing.
Yes Its a balls up!

[f1ea]

OT, but all teams can have a B-team if they wish. Just the same as all teams can have a private test track if they wish.

Back to discussing fake boobs and fake nadgers and the replacement of.

Toro Rosso must go away, and boob jobs are here to stay hehe not really... soon they will be so common they will have no appeal. So i say... let's enjoy them in the meantime...........

[andrew]

They have no appeal already unless you like women who look as if they have a pair of footballs strapped to their chest both when standing and lying down.

Seriously, I think that some of these enhanced women would bounce back up if they feel on their faces!

[Hammer278]

If the person has had an implant(s) for medical reasons then they shouldn't have to pay out of their own pocket.

If the person that had an implant(s) for no other reason than sheer vanity (pathteic) then they should be charged a huge amount.

LOL what kind of reasoning is this?? Were you joking?

It doesn't matter what the intention is, the individual is still a CUSTOMER who got screwed and no one should have to pay from their pockets!

[myownalias]

Regardless of whether the implants were installed on the NHS or private, the same provider needs to fix the problem, and then recoup the costs from the implant manufacturer.

A quick note about cosmetic surgery, sometimes its not vanity, it's a matter of self esteem, especially if deformed by birth defects. Yes it's cosmetic but it can be as life changing as heart surgery.