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By Fred_C_Dobbs
#284256
Not only does DRS make overtaking too easy, it enables overtaking for the wrong reasons. Overtaking should be possible because your car is the faster or you're the better driver, not because your DRS is enabled and the other chap's isn't. That isn't cricket, and it certainly defies any definition of "racing" I am acquainted with.

But let's drop the curtain and admit what this is really about: Vettel. Vettel uses DRS to better effect in qualies than everyone else, even than his own teammate. Claims that this is a matter of driver safety are laughable; the accelerator pedal works both ways, and the DRS does not activate itself. If a driver puts himself at risk by exceeding the limits of his skill, that is the consequence of his poor judgment, not of the rear wing.
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By racechick
#284289
Not only does DRS make overtaking too easy, it enables overtaking for the wrong reasons. Overtaking should be possible because your car is the faster or you're the better driver, not because your DRS is enabled and the other chap's isn't. That isn't cricket, and it certainly defies any definition of "racing" I am acquainted with.

But let's drop the curtain and admit what this is really about: Vettel. Vettel uses DRS to better effect in qualies than everyone else, even than his own teammate. Claims that this is a matter of driver safety are laughable; the accelerator pedal works both ways, and the DRS does not activate itself. If a driver puts himself at risk by exceeding the limits of his skill, that is the consequence of his poor judgment, not of the rear wing.



:clap::clap: Agree 100%
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By The_Stig_Money
#284293
I am sure somebody already stated this,

but they should allow DRS any time.

The driver will have the benefit of extra speed at the cost of less grip/unstable car
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By LewEngBridewell
#284303
Not only does DRS make overtaking too easy, it enables overtaking for the wrong reasons. Overtaking should be possible because your car is the faster or you're the better driver, not because your DRS is enabled and the other chap's isn't.


The faster driver ALWAYS DOES get past though. That's clear from the results.

The issue before was that the faster driver COULDN'T get past a slower car. Now they can. Because of DRS. You don't see slower cars overtaking faster cars with DRS, because the slower cars aren't ever closing the gap to less than a second, obviously. The 2 zones in Abu Dhabi were badly placed, so that example shouldn't really be considered in this case.
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By killem2
#285398
Pft if anything, they should uncap it and let everyone use it at all times. Stop using it as an overtaking measure, and let the drivers use it as a SPEED tool.
By andrew
#285399
If DRS is going to be around for a while, the only tweek I would want made is that it can be used as a defensive tool as well as an overtaking device.
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By LewEngBridewell
#285411
If DRS is going to be around for a while, the only tweek I would want made is that it can be used as a defensive tool as well as an overtaking device.


But then surely there'd be no point in having it at all? The effect would be cancelled out.
By andrew
#285415
If DRS is going to be around for a while, the only tweek I would want made is that it can be used as a defensive tool as well as an overtaking device.


But then surely there'd be no point in having it at all? The effect would be cancelled out.


Exactly! That's what I was hinting at but it does give an unfair advantage to the car ahead.
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By IceManpjn
#285423
but they should allow DRS any time.


Pft if anything, they should uncap it and let everyone use it at all times. Stop using it as an overtaking measure, and let the drivers use it as a SPEED tool.


If DRS is going to be around for a while, the only tweek I would want made is that it can be used as a defensive tool as well as an overtaking device.


This.

I don't mind stuff like DRS if it's open to everybody to use as they please, but when it's only open to an overtaking car it's artificial. It's almost like adding a bunch of cinder blocks to Vettel's car to help everybody else keep up with him.
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By LewEngBridewell
#285436
This.

I don't mind stuff like DRS if it's open to everybody to use as they please, but when it's only open to an overtaking car it's artificial. It's almost like adding a bunch of cinder blocks to Vettel's car to help everybody else keep up with him.


Yes, but the whole point of only having it available to the car behind is so it can overtake! If it was available to the car infront as well, then there would be no point in having DRS. DRS was introduced to combat the issue that EVERYONE complained about... the lack of overtaking.

I'm all for DRS when it is positioned correctly, something which hasn't been the case all the time this year, and thus passes have looked too easy. Hopefully, things will have been learnt for 2012.
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By oaba09
#285498
I guess I'm one of the few who actually like the DRS....DRS separates the fast cars from the slow ones...It will also prevent what happened in last year's final race from happening again(alonso not being able to overtake a supposedly slower petrov)...

It also made the races on some boring tracks exciting....
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By LewEngBridewell
#285503
I guess I'm one of the few who actually like the DRS....DRS separates the fast cars from the slow ones...It will also prevent what happened in last year's final race from happening again(alonso not being able to overtake a supposedly slower petrov)...

It also made the races on some boring tracks exciting....


Exactly. That's what I feel. I'm glad I'm not the only one! :thumbup:
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By Frontrunner
#285511
Take F1 back to basics, no fragile tyres, no DRS, no KERS and no ridiculous tyre usage reg's.


:yes:

I just about prefer last year's so called boring Bridgestone tyres than this years Pirelli, The Pirelli's seem to suit certain drivers because they nurse them better and other reasons where as the Bridgestone's seem to suit nearly every driver and the drivers don't have to worry about nursing them and there for they just drive hard and push on. The 2010 season was much more exciting than 2011 even with the KERS, DRS and fragile Pirelli's, Anyway back on topic with DRS, It either doesn't work at some tracks or we see easy boring overtakes. Get rid of DRS or let the drivers use it whenever they want in the races.
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By racechick
#285514
:yes: Yes. To what you just said :)

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