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[What's Burning?]

Speaking of Bruce and Denny Orange,
31 year old car now, I wanted one then and I still do. There were supposed to be 250 but they only made 10 in the end. So, probably not gonna happen. This, gents, is the father of the mighty F1.

You mean the Ford Mustang is the father of the mighty F1?

[Hammer278]

Speaking of Bruce and Denny Orange,
31 year old car now, I wanted one then and I still do. There were supposed to be 250 but they only made 10 in the end. So, probably not gonna happen. This, gents, is the father of the mighty F1.

Wait, what? Why is this car the father of F1?

[madbrad]

Speaking of Bruce and Denny Orange,
31 year old car now, I wanted one then and I still do. There were supposed to be 250 but they only made 10 in the end. So, probably not gonna happen. This, gents, is the father of the mighty F1.

Wait, what? Why is this car the father of F1?

It was McLaren's first road car. The F1 was their 2nd.


Do not confuse this with later Mustang ASC McLaren models, as that is a different company with no relation to this McLaren.

[madbrad]

Speaking of Bruce and Denny Orange,
31 year old car now, I wanted one then and I still do. There were supposed to be 250 but they only made 10 in the end. So, probably not gonna happen. This, gents, is the father of the mighty F1.

You mean the Ford Mustang is the father of the mighty F1?

Not all Mustangs, just this one.

[darwin dali]

Err.nice livery, but no thanks. Makes me think of Arrows cars which were out in the rain too long.

This is a winner anyday...ditch the chrome and go back to this!!

I miss the flowing lines of the cars in this era

[andrew]

Even in the West days the silver was for Mercedes, that's why the engine cover was silver. Without Mercedes McLaren probably will lose their chrome. But depends whois sponsoring them as to what the livery will be. With no sponsor papaya orange is McLarens true livery.

Oh yes..make it black-orange pleeeeeeeeeeeease

Been done.....

[vlad]

Jos the Boss!

[Hammer278]

Jos the Boss!

Yeah, he really knocked off Montoya's rear wing like a boss when he was being lapped in Brazil!

[bigpat]

Err.nice livery, but no thanks. Makes me think of Arrows cars which were out in the rain too long.

This is a winner anyday...ditch the chrome and go back to this!!

I miss the flowing lines of the cars in this era

Agree, this was one TOUGH looking colour scheme....

As for McLaren Honda, bring it on!

I think McLaren should hold onto Mercedes for as long as they can, as they are the class of the field at the moment.
I can't see McLaren spending $100 million to make F1 engines, the capital expense just doesn't make sense. Honda on the other hand, have the money, the people and infrastructure already in place....

[Rej]

Err.nice livery, but no thanks. Makes me think of Arrows cars which were out in the rain too long.

This is a winner anyday...ditch the chrome and go back to this!!

Indeed! This silverish-black combination was a killer...
Although I would like to see a modern orange-black livery.
In the end it will all come down to the major sponsor

[vlad]

Jos the Boss!

Yeah, he really knocked off Montoya's rear wing like a boss when he was being lapped in Brazil!

Brake failure!

[LewEngBridewell]

Orange and black, while very good on F1 cars, just doesn't seem aggressive enough for McLaren. Maybe it's just because it's more recently associated with Arrows and Spyker....

I suppose McLaren could finally bring success to those colours, if they went with them!

[andrew]

Brake failure!

No one had brake failure. It's just what with Montoya being a rather portly chap he was carrying extra weight. Then you have to consider the 5 steak pies, 7 litres of Diet Coke (he wanted the regular stuff but was told no) half a ton of sweeties and a pack of breath mints, it's little wonder he had a car hit him.

[bud]

Orange and black, while very good on F1 cars, just doesn't seem aggressive enough for McLaren. Maybe it's just because it's more recently associated with Arrows and Spyker....

I suppose McLaren could finally bring success to those colours, if they went with them!

They are running the colours in GT3

[bud]

McLaren has firmly rebuffed suggestions the team could switch to Honda engines for the 2014 season.

Originating in Germany, reports had claimed the Japanese firm is keen to rekindle the relationship which heralded four consecutive titles in the late 1980's. However, McLaren Managing Director Jonathan Neale quashed such notions in the latest Vodafone McLaren Mercedes phone-in.

"That's all wide of the mark," he said. "I can scoff the rumour and say that we are entirely focussed on our Mercedes-Benz relationship, we have a long standing relationship spanning many wins and championships and long may that continue.

"We are wedded to, very happy with and enjoying our partnership with Mercedes-Benz," he added.

However, with the team reverting to a customer supply of the German power plants from next season there has been concern in some corners that it may sour the longstanding relationship. No so, believes Neale. "Mercedes have their own GP team and it's right and proper that a degree of focus is going to go in that direction," he conceded. "We make a healthy technical contribution, they are formidable technical partners in the engine space and we enjoy that relationship.

"I was just talking this morning with Thomas Fuhr up at Mercedes-Benz, we speak frequently, and we want the same thing. It's in our interests to have a consistent engine together because that's how we get the highest quality.

"Thomas was enjoying that he managed to get six cars in the top ten qualifying positions on Saturday in Abu Dhabi, and they take real pleasure and delight in that, and so they should. And of course we like to beat them all as well, so that worked well for us!"

The team's engine relationship isn't the only change for 2012, with exhaust regulations set to change the way teams design their cars. It could prove an opportunity to knock Red Bull from its perch, though Neale is not writing them off quite so quickly.

"They've got themselves in too good a position with a package that works well under these regulations and on these tyres, and clearly they've been able to exploit that in the last two years," he said.

"We had an era of Ferrari dominance at the beginning of the decade," Neale recalled. "Anybody whose watched the sport over a period of time will watch teams come in to a moment of sweetness, or hit the sweet spot for a couple of years and maybe tail off. That's not always caused by regulations change; sometimes it's caused by being caught out in changes in technology.

"If you look historically over twenty years you would write McLaren or Ferrari off at your peril," he warned. "Both organisations have been around for a long period of time and have powerful engineering organisations and a record of making the right choices."