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[racechick]

It seems the drivers arent happy and want DRS altering for next year. They want its use restricting in practise and quali as it is in the race. They feel it is dangerous and has contributed to accidents (for Webber, Vettel and Senna). Drivers are almost unanimous on wanting this change....almost, wonder who wasnt?
Team bosses all want to keep DRS but think it needs tweeking as overtaking is now too easy at some tracks.This comes from Mark Webbers column
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 764552.stm

Well. Its good they're trying to get it right. It is too easy now.

[Matt_1222]

I agree, i am not a fan at all of DRS. As long as it is around we will never have another on track battle. The only times we do is when the DRS is not long enough for someone to make an overtake, e.g. Webber & Hamilton in Korea

[LewEngBridewell]

My view on DRS has not changed all through the season. I've said this many times on here, but seen as the opportunity presents itself again...

I have been a fan of DRS. I, for one, was fed up of seeing a car get to within 1 - 1.5 seconds of a car and then be rendered hopelessly stuck. A great battle would begin to form, and then the outcome was all too often anti-climactic.

No F1 fan liked to see this, and no driver liked to endure this. The outcry that lasted far too long was finally addressed competently with something that actually ALLOWED overtaking to take place. And this is what people forget when they blast DRS. DRS does NOT "create" an overtake. It simply ALLOWS an overtake to happen that should've happened anyway, had there been no issues with troublesome turbulent air!

Now there's no doubting that at some circuits, the positioning of the DRS activation point has been erroneous. Sometimes the zone in which the DRS can be open has been too long, making the pass too easy, while other times it's been too short, thus not combating the problem it was designed to tackle. This is all part of the understandable learning curve that is taking place. This is the first season it's been in use, we must remember.

Therefore, next season, one would hope that those mistakes are not repeated, after analysing the data and footage gained from this season's action.

However, there is NO DOUBTING that the quality and excitement of the on-track action has been enhanced this year, and I've been thrilled to see all the overtaking the faster drivers can now actually accomplish this year. It's a solution that's finally worked. I can fully understand those who talk of the purity of racing, and I do agree with what they're saying. In time, we may see the development of cars which goes in a way that favours overtaking without the need for DRS.

Until such a glorious time, which I indeed hope will arise, I'm more than happy to continue with DRS. Beats queues any day.

[myownalias]

I don't like these artificial aids at all, DRS, KERS, and fast degrading tyres, all artificial ways to improve the "spectacle"; bring back refueling, differing fuel loads added the same spectacle without being artificial, get rid of all these artificial aids, on some tracks it's just like overtaking on a motorway... I see that every day, I don't need to see it in F1!

[scotty]

People seem to be forgetting all the trial and error involved in it's implementation this season. I expect to see a lot of the zones changed a fair bit next year.

[andrew]

I was against DRS when it was announced but gave it a chance but am still against it. It only papers over the real problems in F1 and avoids from actualy sorting the real issues that prevent overtaking. True overtaking is meant to be and has always been hard but DRS makes it all too easy. There's all the thrill of the chase but then the driver behind pushes the magic button and bang, they're in front.

Take F1 back to basics, no fragile tyres, no DRS, no KERS and no ridiculous tyre usage reg's.

[racechick]

I was against DRS when it was announced but gave it a chance but am still against it. It only papers over the real problems in F1 and avoids from actualy sorting the real issues that prevent overtaking. True overtaking is meant to be and has always been hard but DRS makes it all too easy. There's all the thrill of the chase but then the driver behind pushes the magic button and bang, they're in front.

Take F1 back to basics, no fragile tyres, no DRS, no KERS and no ridiculous tyre usage reg's.

I agree with you. And restrict aero.
At least they're looking at DRS and maybe making it less easy, but ultimately it's still a gimmick that detracts from the real skill of overtaking.

[Matt_1222]

I was against DRS when it was announced but gave it a chance but am still against it. It only papers over the real problems in F1 and avoids from actualy sorting the real issues that prevent overtaking. True overtaking is meant to be and has always been hard but DRS makes it all too easy. There's all the thrill of the chase but then the driver behind pushes the magic button and bang, they're in front.

Take F1 back to basics, no fragile tyres, no DRS, no KERS and no ridiculous tyre usage reg's.

I agree with you. And restrict aero.
At least they're looking at DRS and maybe making it less easy, but ultimately it's still a gimmick that detracts from the real skill of overtaking.

Yes i concur, i find a DRS pass more anti-climatic than no pass at all to be honest, and you know its coming and when its coming, there is no 'i wonder if driver A will hold up driver B allowing driver C to win'. Same goes for tyres, blue flags and lights telling drivers when to change gear

[Hammer278]

People seem to be forgetting all the trial and error involved in it's implementation this season. I expect to see a lot of the zones changed a fair bit next year.

Exactly. For a trial year, they haven't done too bad. The only major chicken up I can think of is Abu Dhabi...but getting rid of one the zones will be a step in the right direction already.

[bud]

I think the problem we saw just at the last race with 2 DRS zones is it helps the car that was just passed retake the position. Which is not what its meant to be there for, The whole point of DRS is to help a car that is clearly faster than the one in front overtake the slower car and get on with his race. Brundle says this nearly every race.

[Hammer278]

I think the problem we saw just at the last race with 2 DRS zones is it helps the car that was just passed retake the position. Which is not what its meant to be there for, The whole point of DRS is to help a car that is clearly faster than the one in front get on with his overtake the slower car and get on with his race. Brundle says this nearly every race.

Especially when either Hamilton or Button had just overtaken using DRS.

[GRHinPorts]

I don't like these artificial aids at all, DRS, KERS, and fast degrading tyres, all artificial ways to improve the "spectacle"; bring back refueling, differing fuel loads added the same spectacle without being artificial, get rid of all these artificial aids, on some tracks it's just like overtaking on a motorway... I see that every day, I don't need to see it in F1!

Maybe this was the case when refuelling was first permitted back in 1994 but by the end of 2009 computers had rendered the chance of this pretty remote. Basically all the teams would know what the optimum fuel strategy was and would stick pretty rigidly to that.

Also refuelling (generally) means more pitstops and so the drivers can afford not to bother with any overtaking manouvres until such time as the pitstops occur. And seeing changes for position occur in the pits is IMO even more unexciting and artificial than DRS is.

[GRHinPorts]

For as long as I have been following F1 there has been a strongly held view by many who are NOT running the sport that the best way to increase overtaking would be to reduce wings and other aero devices and give the drivers back bigger and fatter tyres sort of like what we had in the late 70s early 80s.

The only reasons I can think those running the sport dont try this is either: a) there is some intrinsic need for lots of aero devices - either safety or as advertising spaces - that is inescapable and we all need to recognise and accept OR b) the less aero, bigger tyres idea is more flawed than you think and would not produce the overtaking people imagine - perhaps the small braking distances of a modern F1 car and the layout of circuits themselves also needs to be addressed.

Part of me would love to see an F1 series under the regs of low aero, big tyres just to see whether the theory I have heard for so many years now would actually work.

However since this remains unlikely I'd rather have the DRS and some overtaking manouvres even if this in a wholly artificial event.

I suspect also that the clear differences in speed that has existed between the teams this year (eg. the Red Bull is clearly faster than the McLaren, which is clearly faster than the Ferrari, which is clearly faster than Mercedes, which is clearly faster the Renault, Force India, Sauber, Toro Rosso midfield pack) has meant that DRS has not properly been tested and that with a closer grouping of the teams we might see it produce some thrilling races in the future.

[LewEngBridewell]

I think the problem we saw just at the last race with 2 DRS zones is it helps the car that was just passed retake the position. Which is not what its meant to be there for, The whole point of DRS is to help a car that is clearly faster than the one in front overtake the slower car and get on with his race. Brundle says this nearly every race.

The positioning at Abu Dhabi was stupid. It was clear that the cancelling-out effect we witnessed was going to take place. Hopefully, they won't repeat that cock-up again.

[f1ea]

They should have scrapped the DRS for Q... its supposedly for overtaking.

Other than that... the DRS has not been a "problem". Its artificial... but its also artificial that the trailing car get sh**ty air. They should have lots of info now to make better DRS regs.

To me, increasing the tire vs aero grip thing would be good enough. Scrap KERS, DRS and bring refuelling. Grippy tires with less aero and refuelling is much more interesting than DRS and KERS.