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Formula One related discussion.
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By bigpat
#281772
Ah, a picture if the great'Smokey Yunick'. A smart( and more cunning) man that ever worked with racecars....

If I were race director:

I would be indeed intrigued how the RB7 did that. But passing the tests, I would have to be satisfied that it complied....you must adhere to due process in these cases, and remain impartial. The cars are scutineered and tested in very specific ways. I don't believe that the FIA can just pull a car to bits on suspicion.

Initially i would be reluctant to create a more stringent test, based on one particular car, as that is not fair. You can't really act quickly unless another team, or teams, lodge a protest. Even then, the protester must be specific in what they are protesting about, and what part is in breach contrary to the rules, bearing in mind that it passed scrutineering beforehand.

Only then, could you legally be allowed to disassemble the offending part, and ask for specific questions, but you can't ask "how do you beat the test?". You can only examine what is physically in front of you. If still found legal, but thought to be potentially in contravention of the rules, then, you have grounds to implement a tougher test. The problem is that as a scrutineer, you don't really know how the team work around the test, which means you don't know how to change the test to stop it happening......

... Until Scarbs blew it open!
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By spankyham
#281880
Ah, a picture if the great'Smokey Yunick'. A smart( and more cunning) man that ever worked with racecars....

If I were race director:

I would be indeed intrigued how the RB7 did that. But passing the tests, I would have to be satisfied that it complied....you must adhere to due process in these cases, and remain impartial. The cars are scutineered and tested in very specific ways. I don't believe that the FIA can just pull a car to bits on suspicion.

Initially i would be reluctant to create a more stringent test, based on one particular car, as that is not fair. You can't really act quickly unless another team, or teams, lodge a protest. Even then, the protester must be specific in what they are protesting about, and what part is in breach contrary to the rules, bearing in mind that it passed scrutineering beforehand.

Only then, could you legally be allowed to disassemble the offending part, and ask for specific questions, but you can't ask "how do you beat the test?". You can only examine what is physically in front of you. If still found legal, but thought to be potentially in contravention of the rules, then, you have grounds to implement a tougher test. The problem is that as a scrutineer, you don't really know how the team work around the test, which means you don't know how to change the test to stop it happening......

... Until Scarbs blew it open!


Thanks mate :thumbup:

That sidecar idea never really caught on for 4 wheeled vehicles :hehe:
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By bigpat
#282211
With ALL due respect to Craig, who IS a very clever man, is that he analyses the cars, but he doesn't design them....

There is a big difference between the two....
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By Jabberwocky
#282299
I also this system would be deemed as an "active", which banned. It is active, because it uses closed-loop feedback to alter its movement. I think you would have to try and do this passively. The fact there is a heating element is the snag. If it was heated via track scraping, or heat soak from the engine etc...


The problem with engine heat soak and scraping etc, is that it would change track to track day to day. ambient temperatures and so on
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By bigpat
#282329
I also this system would be deemed as an "active", which banned. It is active, because it uses closed-loop feedback to alter its movement. I think you would have to try and do this passively. The fact there is a heating element is the snag. If it was heated via track scraping, or heat soak from the engine etc...


The problem with engine heat soak and scraping etc, is that it would change track to track day to day. ambient temperatures and so on


Yep, I agree. I don't know if they change at low temperatures like 90-100 degrees....
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