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[LewEngBridewell]

I'm sorry but this needs a thread of it's own if we are to look at it broadly.

India has been the most recent in an astonishing amount of coming-togethers between these two guys. What is going on!!????

These are the incidents:

Monaco - collided at the hairpin, Lewis given penalty
Silverstone - rough bashing battle at the end of the race
Singapore quali - brush each other in an outlap
Singapore - collide in the race, almost come to blows afterwards, Lewis given penalty
India - collide in race, Felipe given penalty

Lewis states that he tried to start to make amends with Felipe Massa in the minute's silence prior to the race. They haven't spoken in a while. But looking at the replays of the accident, Felipe KNEW Lewis was there, he DID look across and the shockingly unusual penalty for a Ferrari WAS deserved.

Your thoughts on this ongoing soap-opera???

[Denthúl]

I think the two of them are just having difficult years which sees them fighting over the same piece of tarmac more often than last year. Today's incident was Massa's fault. He did look over, but I think he just (wrongly, I guess) expected Hamilton to yield on account of the fact that he had the better line and was still ahead at the time. Obviously that didn't work out for him and they made contact, for which he was correctly penalised.

[Hammer278]

Its simple, the little Crier in the red car needs a 101 lesson on RACING. His thing with racing is not new, he's had quite a few crashes in his pathetic career, and it won't end.

What Lewis needs to do is to qualify well and make SURE he's nowhere NEAR the Crier. This time around the stewards felt another penalty was needed during practice as Lewis was looking a bit too fast for their liking, so Lewis had no choice but to start near the Crier.

Conclusion, sooner Ferrari kicks the Crier out of the team, the safer the racing at the sharp end.

[LewEngBridewell]

I couldn't believe it when it happened again this race. It's getting totally out of hand.

[QuoththeRaven]

I think that if Hamilton is trying to smooth the waters he is doing the right thing. Massa on a warpath against him will only cause Massa to pull more stunts like today and hurt Hamilton's chances. Pointing fingers and venting on international TV might feel good, but it might come back to haunt you in the next race and hurt your chances to win and Hamilton has come to realize this. Despite this being a terrible season for him, it might just have done him some good as he will know what not to do in future seasons, things that sometimes come around to bite you in your bottom.

I do not know if Massa is going to back down, though I do expect Ferrari to have a long talk with him about the value of points and needing to finish in order to get them. Hopefully that will get him to see reason.

[racechick]

You forgot Silverstone.

[LewEngBridewell]

You forgot Silverstone.

Added in. Thanks!

[LewEngBridewell]

Its simple, the little Crier in the red car needs a 101 lesson on RACING. His thing with racing is not new, he's had quite a few crashes in his pathetic career, and it won't end.

What Lewis needs to do is to qualify well and make SURE he's nowhere NEAR the Crier. This time around the stewards felt another penalty was needed during practice as Lewis was looking a bit too fast for their liking, so Lewis had no choice but to start near the Crier.

Conclusion, sooner Ferrari kicks the Crier out of the team, the safer the racing at the sharp end.

I agree that Felipe is bloody useless. Not just useless, but plain pathetic. Today's incident was the FIRST time that one of the collisions between the two has been DELIBERATE.

He's saved only because he races for Ferrari. If he'd have been in a team like McLaren or Williams, teams that have the sheer balls to let two GREAT racers race, then he wouldn't have lasted 2 seconds.

But Ferrari don't possess such balls, and they bow down low to a great driver who only wants a completely average driver as a supporting team-mate. Shocking isn't it?

[PartsaS]

Make F1 safer, Send Massa home...

[EagleF1-27]

Massa has never gotten over losing out in the final laps of the 2008 Championship to Lewis, his one and only chance to have won the title.
He is a washed out Alonso puppet now and seems to be taking out his frustrations on his old nemesis. What surprised me more though about Massa getting the penalty was how Brundle and DC thought it was all Lewis's fault and that he should have backed out. Perhaps they too have seen Hamilton be involved in so many incidents and get given the blame, they immediately now put him at fault. To be honest that is something I did myself at one point when they were replaying the incident!

[LewEngBridewell]

Make F1 safer, Send Massa home...

The irony is this. Felipe was stood in a respectful period of silence in memory of the deaths of two motorsport legends before this race. Lewis ATTEMPTED to make amends between the pair shortly after this silence.

Then in the race, Felipe deliberately causes an accident. I didn't think the little twerp could sink any lower in my estimations.

[racechick]

Brundle and particularly Coulthard show bias, ive said this before. They didnt even debate a penalty for Massa, only for Lewis. I think the bias in F1 is disgusting. Why is coulthard reporting on a race when he is employed by one of the competitors?

[LewEngBridewell]

Brundle and particularly Coulthard show bias, ive said this before. They didnt even debate a penalty for Massa, only for Lewis. I think the bias in F1 is disgusting. Why is coulthard reporting on a race when he is employed by one of the competitors?

Maybe they just couldn't believe a penalty for a Ferrari was possible...... it never usually is....

[racechick]

Whinge bag is on the red button now.

[racechick]

And now here's Brundle again with his bias. A racing incident