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[vlad]

Not the whole career, but he has much more bad than good starts...

[bud]

Not the whole career, but he has much more bad than good starts...

So saying more bad than good in what time frame if not his whole career? This season for him is not even comparable to his career in bad starts only thing that has changed is the tyres. So maybe just maybe he isn't bullshitting but telling it how it is.

[vlad]

Vettel has the same tires, Alonso has them, Schumacher has them... (Do I need to continue?)

[bud]

Vettel has the same tires, Alonso has them, Schumacher has them... (Do I need to continue?)

You obviously have no idea about racing. So please don't continue

[myownalias]

Vettel has the same tires, Alonso has them, Schumacher has them... (Do I need to continue?)

You obviously have no idea about racing. So please don't continue

That's harsh Bud, this forum is about debate and opinion, opinion is neither right nor wrong by nature!

I think it would be far to say that Webber hasn't got to grips with the tyres; but it's not the tyres fault; almost everyone else has managed to get to grips with the new tyres, Webber simply doesn't seem to be able to adapt to the new tyre formula, which might be allied to all the new gadgetry this season, maybe Webber isn't setting something correctly on the wheel to get a good launch!

[vlad]

Vettel has the same tires, Alonso has them, Schumacher has them... (Do I need to continue?)

You obviously have no idea about racing. So please don't continue

That's harsh Bud, this forum is about debate and opinion, opinion is neither right nor wrong by nature!

I think it would be far to say that Webber hasn't got to grips with the tyres; but it's not the tyres fault; almost everyone else has managed to get to grips with the new tyres, Webber simply doesn't seem to be able to adapt to the new tyre formula, which might be allied to all the new gadgetry this season, maybe Webber isn't setting something correctly on the wheel to get a good launch!

Thank you myownalias!

[bud]

Well to suggest tyres are the same for everyone thus irrelevant means that to me, it's like saying the football is the same for everyone why can't they all bend it like beckham!
Ask any engineer anyone in motorsport, doesnt matter the category they will all say Tyres are the most important part of the car. You gotta make the car work for them after all they are transferring the power to the Tarmac.

[myownalias]

Well to suggest tyres are the same for everyone thus irrelevant means that to me, it's like saying the football is the same for everyone why can't they all bend it like beckham!
Ask any engineer anyone in motorsport, doesnt matter the category they will all say Tyres are the most important part of the car. You gotta make the car work for them after all they are transferring the power to the Tarmac.

I'm not arguing that the tyres are the most important thing on the car, but to put the blame solely on the tyres is wrong, otherwise everyone would be having the same problems off the line; it's something else that is not using the tyres correctly, be that driving style or car. I don't agree with your football analogy unless you are suggesting that Webber isn't as good as other drivers?!?!...

[bud]

What I'm saying is every driver has their own idiosyncrasies.
And to say Webber is just s*** at race starts is not very in-depth. If he had the problem his whole career then yes I'd be down with that, but its only been this season he has really struggled.

Theres a fine line between wheel spin and stalling, what webber is saying the new tyres are making that line harder for him.

[darwin dali]

the new tyres are making that line harder for him.

The 'for him' bit is the key.

[bud]

the new tyres are making that line harder for him.

The 'for him' bit is the key.

Might be others on the grid with the same problem, just Marks up front most of the time for everyone to take notice or even care.

[What's Burning?]

t to put the blame solely on the tyres is wrong, otherwise everyone would be having the same problems off the line; it's something else that is not using the tyres correctly, be that driving style or car.

if everyone was having the same problem off the line... how would we know?

[myownalias]

If all the drivers were having the same problem with the tyres, we wouldn't even be discussing this...

[Hansy]

He was already making a lot of bad starts last year, how is it about the tyres?

[Timekeeper]

Webber.. What a pathetic excuse.

The ENTIRE grid has gotten used to them. It's also been FOURTEEN races/starts. Get better or give up your spot to someone who deserves it.