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#277124
I always thought Seb go better equipment than Mark anyway????

To me, Red Bull looks like they are running something that's not legal.

If they aren't, then atm, every other driver on the grid looks like a monkey who would be better off being bus drivers, rather than kid on F1 drivers.
They're not good enough by miles and miles. :rolleyes:


Is it really so inconceivable to you that the youngest pole sitter/race winner/runner up/champion/etc./etc. might just be a really good driver?

I'm sorry, but I always have a hard time understanding people like you that rather sit there and make up excuses for why not-your-driver is actually not as good as he's showing the world.
#277125
To be fair, Webber did fantastic. He robbed Alonso nicely...how many times has he done it this season??

The others are journeyman, anyway when I saw Jenson 2nd to a flying Vettel, I knew this race was over for the victory.
#277126
It's fair enough saying that Red Bull are better than everyone else, but the margin by which they are better is the thing that is concerning me.
It looks like a total embarrassment for Ferrari and McLaren, as Seb's just said that he could pull a big margin today....with ease.......lol.

Pathetic, especially when Red Bull are running Renault engines............... :confused:


Again, look through F1 history. Red Bull are not the 1st team to dominate a season like this.

Lewis' fault with Massa, not sure it deserved a penalty but given Massa got a puncture I guess it was only fair.
Vettel just turns me on this season what more can I say!


It was a stupid mistake. Had he not given Massa a puncture he would have probably got away with it.
#277127
Thought that Hamilton deserved the drive through because he had ruined Massa' race. If Massa didnt get a puncture then I think Hamilton wouldn't of been penalised. But Massa' comments post race were a bit rich considering he wrecked Webber's race back at Monza.
#277128
Seb is a very good driver. No doubt about it. My problem is how far ahead he is of everyone else on the grid. :confused:

To me, there is something not quite right about how far ahead he has been this season. Are you tying to tell me that Seb is so much better a driver than Button, that he could pull out such a huge margin on him within the first 3 to 4 laps today??

Unless the McLaren is a really pathetic car, something isn't right here imo. :confused:
#277129
Seb is a very good driver. No doubt about it. My problem is how far ahead he is of everyone else on the grid. :confused:

To me, there is something not quite right about how far ahead he has been this season. Are you tying to tell me that Seb is so much better a driver than Button, that he could pull out such a huge margin on him within the first 3 to 4 laps today??

Unless the McLaren is a really pathetic car, something isn't right here imo. :confused:


I'd believe it. Since Button was probably thinking of saving his tyres for a beauty contest once the race is over as usual.
#277134
If Vettel can win races in which the Red Bull is not the fastest car in the race, it is not that hard to consider that when he does have the fastest car, he might go flying off into the distance like he did today?

I'm not quite sure why you're acting like this has never happened before in Grand Prix racing? Even this year, in Canada, Button was much, much faster thany anyone during the last part of the race. Is that also magic/cheating/better car than team mate?
#277136
That was minnimal contact, and several guys had similar issues when trailing a car.

They gave hiom the penalty because they've been dishing out the same penalty for the same incident a couple of times already. Other than that, he finished in a pretty decent position, compared to massa, lewis had a super race.
#277138
That was minnimal contact, and several guys had similar issues when trailing a car.

They gave hiom the penalty because they've been dishing out the same penalty for the same incident a couple of times already. Other than that, he finished in a pretty decent position, compared to massa, lewis had a super race.



I tried keeping count of how many overtakes Lewis made today but couldn't keep up. :(

Anyone? :confused:
#277140
I'd believe it. Since Button was probably thinking of saving his tyres for a beauty contest once the race is over as usual.

Agree, there are too many part timers in F1 these days who just want to finish the race rather than actually race.

Today imo, was a pathetic show with at least 20 useless drivers who should just pack it in and do something else. Like I said before, there is no way you can justify Seb being so far ahead after so few laps. :confused:

All the muppets were looking like total amatures, and I hope they read this, as that wasn't a show today. Seb just drove away and everyone watched him.

Sad!!
#277142
What can you say about Vettel and the Red Bull machine? Congrats to him, it probably would have been better for him to ice it this GP instead of pushing the WDC another race forward. Button, solid race, boring but he got the best result anyone could ever hope for given the season's dominance so congratulations to him. Alonso, solid drive another solid start to get the result he did. Webber... he should be embarrassed, hang up the RedBull wings and give some fresh blood a shot. Hamilton passed like 30 cars to lose a position and yet it still was exciting to watch. Shumacher had a hard time passing... go figure. Rosberg said his goal is to finish ahead of Massa in the WDC, but I think that's a tall order, at least he took a chunk off the lead today.

A very honorable mention to Heikki, a solid drive for him today.

The most fun thing to watch in the race was Lewis' brake rotors glow lap after lap. :thumbup:
#277144
What you dont understand is that Button's driving style is "to finish 1st, 1st you have to finish". He drives slow and steady, Hamilton drives all out aggressive "im coming up the inside, if you turn in, i'll have you off and cry when I get a penalty".

By driving consistently and carefully, Button will finish more races higher up than Lewis. Calling him amateur is completely uncalled for.

Red Bull is a second a lap faster than the field at the moment. FACT.
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