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[andrew]

As for this thread not being about politics when it's about Iran building a racetrack, how can it not involve politics?? is this forum really that niave?

How about the politics of the UK and the US? Shall we discuss that? Both countries are responsible for indiscriminate killing is Afghanistan and Iraq. What about China's human rights record, or Bahrains? You cannot in all seriousness be outraged at one country whilst turning a blind eye to the activities of other countries.

Copied this from another forum but it pretty much says what I want to say and gives a run down of the things that the current countries that F1 visits have been up to. The US is not mentioned as we have not yet had a US GP.

If you were to demand any international sport to get on a political high horse, there would barely be a country left to go to..

Australian GP - Live Animal Exports/Offshore Refugee Processing/Indigenous People Treatment
Malaysian GP - Judicial caning & torture of refugees & migrants/exploitation of migrant workers
Chinese GP - Tibet Human Rights/Freedom of speech suppression etc
Turkish GP - Human rights concerns against Turkish Kurds/language suppression etc. Failure of recognition of Cyprus
Spanish/European GP - Basque region conflicts & restrictions to freedom of speech & language
Canadian GP - Religiously segregated schools/Bill 101's restriction on the use of English language.
British GP - Invasion of Iraq/Involvement in Libyan conflict
German GP - German involvement in Afghan conflict/Asylum seeker deportation controversy
Hungarian GP - Violations against human right to private life/Freedom of expression/press concerns
Italian GP - Tunisian deportation & torture violations/Roma settlement evictions
Singapore GP - Severe restrictions on freedom of expression, association, and assembly
Japanese GP - Prisoner conditions, many concerns about govt inaction during nuclear powerstation crisis
South Korean GP - Freedom of speech suppression (National Security Law)
Bahrain GP - Severe restrictions on freedom of expression, association, and assembly/Political uprisings
Abu Dhabi GP - Restrictions on freedom of speech, and press/labor rights/inaction on sexual violence/women's rights
Brazilian GP - Ongoing police brutality/treatment of indigenous people
Indian GP - Human rights abuses in Kashmir region/Detentions without charge/Police brutality & custodial deaths/judicial use of 'narcoanalysis'

Where do you draw the line people? Which of the above human rights abuses are you comfortable with, to be happy for Formula 1 to travel to all the above countries?

Leave the politics to the politicians, and the sport to the sportsmen.

Still happy to single out Iran and not any of the other F1 countries? Compared to some so-called Western countries, Iran is positively saintly!

[bud]

To host an F1 race you need politcal backing so it's involved no matter which way you look at it.

I don't agree with your view on Afghanistan and Iraq for the UK and US. Its a war it seems nearly every month now there is another Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan. But I think from another thread you believe in 9/11 conspiracies so you wouldn't see the just cause in being there.

What forum was that copied from? Be interesting to know where they live. The info on Australian indigenous affairs is way off.

[andrew]

To host an F1 race you need politcal backing so it's involved no matter which way you look at it.

Exactly.

I don't agree with your view on Afghanistan and Iraq for the UK and US. Its a war it seems nearly every month now there is another Australian soldier killed in Afghanistan. But I think from another thread you believe in 9/11 conspiracies so you wouldn't see the just cause in being there.

Being someone who is very anti-war I don't believe in the Iraq or Afghan war, not do I like the indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians which was widespread in both conflicts. As for September 11th, I keep an open mind and honestly don't know what to believe.

What forum was that copied from? Be interesting to know where they live. The info on Australian indigenous affairs is way off.

The person who posted this is Australian (Melbourne I think).

[bud]

Melbourne is full of hippies go figure
You don't believe in all those YouTube conspiracies? Ive seen them all, its One thing to keep an open mind another to dismiss what is a given fact after seeing them.

Personally I think it was an alien freemason behind it all.

Anyways back on Iran, I cannot ever see an F1 event being held there when the country has UN sanctions on it, especially when it is about nuclear power.

[andrew]

The UN sanctions is the nagging doubt for me on this.

Albeit they are building a Grade 2 track for smaller FIA sanctioned series but it is aimed at being easily convertable to a Grade 1 track. However this will beat least 3 or 4 years away so the political situation may improve.