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[bud]

There is quite a few Italian McLaren fans on the McLaren members site.

[racechick]

There is no glory in it. F1 with all its glory can only be and only always will be achieved with Ferrari and only Ferrari.

Hi Kiki, We've missed you, things just arent the same when you're not around. Hope all is well

Your quote above. Do you remember the small British teams operating on a shoestring out of small premises? Garagisters(sorry cant spell that) Enzo condescendingly called them. They beat ferrari.

[LewEngBridewell]

That twitter thing must be .0001 % of fans.

Yet again, your percentages are all screwed up. There are more than 0.0001% of fans on Facebook/Twitter. Furthermore, it isn't a poll. There's no voting. You just assemble your favourite "pages" in your interests section, and the results are from that. It seems you refuse to believe your own eyes!

Bud is 100% correct (and yes, that is a correct percentage). There ARE Italians on the McLaren fan site, who support the team, just as there are British people who support Ferrari.

In attendance at his year's British GP, the vast majority of fans supported McLaren and their drivers, obviously. There were scatterings of RBR, Ferrari, Merc and Lotus fans, but they were very much in the minority.

So if Ferrari cannot win for now, then let it be Red Bull. Although like I said before, I couldn't give a F... competely about Vettel winning or him. There is no glory in it. F1 with all its glory can only be and only always will be achieved with Ferrari and only Ferrari.

This statement is such a pile of dogmatic, bigoted . Of course you don't give a f*** about Vettel winning because you support the Scuderia, and would be happy if every F1 race in the future was won by that team. But glory can only be achieved by Ferrari??? You either sound like a child or someone who's drunk.

I don't want to argue with you, and I fully acknowledge that Ferrari's fan base is the biggest in F1, but you seriously overhype their share of support from F1 fans worldwide. 75% is ridiculous, I doubt it even reaches 50%. Dream on mate.

[AKR]

Is it rubbish as Ferrari are not leading?

That tells me all I need to know.

Just because it is on something you don't use does not make it any less valid.

As for most people supporting Ferrari, well that's just . I could count the number of Ferrari heathens on here on one hand, the same goes for Red Bull, but I need more than one hand to count the number of McLaren heathens on this site alone. And I can say the same for another 2 that I have been/am active on.

Btw isn't there a big 2 storey Ferrari store in London? I know there is.

Well according to Ferrari's website there is 1 store in London, and that's it for the UK. That is a fair old schlep for a pair of vastly overpriced drawers with a tiny Ferrari logo.

As I said to you before, this website/forum represents 0.0001% of the world's F1 fans. In fact it also represents a haven for a great minority of McLaren fans so I can understand your delusional thoughts. As for the other 2, they are probably similar to this site. And it makes sense. You seem to be one who uses only English and go to English/UK based F1 forums only. So of course there seems to be more McLaren fans, as these are the forums they all go to. But perhaps go to other country/language forums. (and exclude Italian ones from this for the obvious reasons). Here is a forum for example. http://forum.f1-hr.com/ This one is Croatian. Most of the users are Ferrari fans. Remeber neutral country and already there are more Ferrari fans on it than McLaren. The same is most likely the case with many others (and I know of them as well). Of course the site has a few McLaren fans (the croatian one I just listed), but like the odd Italian fan bud speaks of registered on McLaren sites, there is always the reject Croat as there is the reject Italian.

[AKR]

There is no glory in it. F1 with all its glory can only be and only always will be achieved with Ferrari and only Ferrari.

Hi Kiki, We've missed you, things just arent the same when you're not around. Hope all is well

Your quote above. Do you remember the small British teams operating on a shoestring out of small premises? Garagisters(sorry cant spell that) Enzo condescendingly called them. They beat ferrari.

Hi Anna, all is well. I know things can be boring without me so that is why I come and visit from time to time to make sure the place gets lightened up. Hope all is well with you too.

By the way, nothing wrong with British teams ever beating Ferrari. You cant win them all. Besides there are some awesome British cars out there. Like Aston Martin and Lotus. And the new McLaren road car is quite sensational. And before you drop what your holding in your hand and break some dishes, or spill the milk, I really just said that. In road cars, mcLaren is new at the game. Rivalry comes with many years of competition etc. It builds up and there is always something that has happened to start it. Whlist in F1 racing Ferrari and McLaren are arch rivals, but not necessary bitter rivals, this isnt the case with the road cars. It cannot be as this is McLaren's first road car (not count the F1 road car of the 90s of course but you get what I am saying). In road cars there is only one arch bitter rival to Ferrari. And it isn't British. It is also Italian. It is Lamborghini. If one konws the history between the 2 men/founders, they will see why. Although Lamborghini cars are quite elegant, compared to Ferrari, I would give Lamborghini the same dishing that I give Mcaren when it comes to F1.

[AKR]

That twitter thing must be .0001 % of fans.

Yet again, your percentages are all screwed up. There are more than 0.0001% of fans on Facebook/Twitter. Furthermore, it isn't a poll. There's no voting. You just assemble your favourite "pages" in your interests section, and the results are from that. It seems you refuse to believe your own eyes!

Bud is 100% correct (and yes, that is a correct percentage). There ARE Italians on the McLaren fan site, who support the team, just as there are British people who support Ferrari.

In attendance at his year's British GP, the vast majority of fans supported McLaren and their drivers, obviously. There were scatterings of RBR, Ferrari, Merc and Lotus fans, but they were very much in the minority.

So if Ferrari cannot win for now, then let it be Red Bull. Although like I said before, I couldn't give a F... competely about Vettel winning or him. There is no glory in it. F1 with all its glory can only be and only always will be achieved with Ferrari and only Ferrari.

This statement is such a pile of dogmatic, bigoted . Of course you don't give a f*** about Vettel winning because you support the Scuderia, and would be happy if every F1 race in the future was won by that team. But glory can only be achieved by Ferrari??? You either sound like a child or someone who's drunk.

I don't want to argue with you, and I fully acknowledge that Ferrari's fan base is the biggest in F1, but you seriously overhype their share of support from F1 fans worldwide. 75% is ridiculous, I doubt it even reaches 50%. Dream on mate.

First off don't call me mate. That is reserved for blokes. I am female. Secondly in the non Englsh speaking world I still would say the Ferrari fan base is a lot higher. Especially in places like China where I have observed many Ferrari fans present (Thus why I never critisised this GP on the other thread about the F1 calendar). In Croatia the liking of Ferrari also outnumbers McLaren and all other teams.

As for the glory thing and me sounding like a child or drunk, although i have been the latter many times, I am certainly not a child or was drunk when I said it. Perhaps you should visit Maranello one day. And then you will see for yourself the difference between it and Woking (or any other factory) and see why I make such comments. You need to experience it and by going to Maranello you will feel it. Words cannot explain it and me trying to clearly sends the wrong impressions.

[LewEngBridewell]

First off don't call me mate. That is reserved for blokes.

I am a bloke.

Secondly in the non Englsh speaking world I still would say the Ferrari fan base is a lot higher. Especially in places like China where I have observed many Ferrari fans present (Thus why I never critisised this GP on the other thread about the F1 calendar). In Croatia the liking of Ferrari also outnumbers McLaren and all other teams.

As for the glory thing and me sounding like a child or drunk, although i have been the latter many times, I am certainly not a child or was drunk when I said it. Perhaps you should visit Maranello one day. And then you will see for yourself the difference between it and Woking (or any other factory) and see why I make such comments. You need to experience it and by going to Maranello you will feel it. Words cannot explain it and me trying to clearly sends the wrong impressions.

I would love to see Maranello one day. I have a huge respect for the Ferrari team, just not the folk who make out they are god's gift to the world of motorsport and that they should be bowed down and prayed to. At they end of the day... they're just another team.

It was the 75% gag that drove me up the wall, and the highly ridiculous statement that only Ferrari can achieve glory.

[AKR]

First off don't call me mate. That is reserved for blokes.

I am a bloke.

Secondly in the non Englsh speaking world I still would say the Ferrari fan base is a lot higher. Especially in places like China where I have observed many Ferrari fans present (Thus why I never critisised this GP on the other thread about the F1 calendar). In Croatia the liking of Ferrari also outnumbers McLaren and all other teams.

As for the glory thing and me sounding like a child or drunk, although i have been the latter many times, I am certainly not a child or was drunk when I said it. Perhaps you should visit Maranello one day. And then you will see for yourself the difference between it and Woking (or any other factory) and see why I make such comments. You need to experience it and by going to Maranello you will feel it. Words cannot explain it and me trying to clearly sends the wrong impressions.

I would love to see Maranello one day. I have a huge respect for the Ferrari team, just not the folk who make out they are god's gift to the world of motorsport and that they should be bowed down and prayed to. At they end of the day... they're just another team.

It was the 75% gag that drove me up the wall, and the highly ridiculous statement that only Ferrari can achieve glory.

In time you will learn that I am quite good at driving you people insane with such comments. But before you go insane take it from me direct that it virtually works every time and that do not take it all to heart. Racechick Anna herself is a McLaren fan. She askeed how I was going and called me by my name Kiki. She like many others know that I am just stirring the pot and just brightening up the place the little. So anyway no real hard feelings met. Here is to a drink.

[AKR]

First off don't call me mate. That is reserved for blokes.

I am a bloke.

I know you are. I thought that the way you called me mate that you thought I was one too. Sorry if I can seem a bit funny with it. Not sure if you guys call women mate as well. English isn't my first language.

[LewEngBridewell]

In time you will learn that I am quite good at driving you people insane with such comments. But before you go insane take it from me direct that it virtually works every time and that do not take it all to heart. Racechick Anna herself is a McLaren fan. She askeed how I was going and called me by my name Kiki. She like many others know that I am just stirring the pot and just brightening up the place the little. So anyway no real hard feelings met. Here is to a drink.

No hard feelings at all! Cheers! Here's to a fine rivalry our favourite teams enjoy!

[AKR]

In time you will learn that I am quite good at driving you people insane with such comments. But before you go insane take it from me direct that it virtually works every time and that do not take it all to heart. Racechick Anna herself is a McLaren fan. She askeed how I was going and called me by my name Kiki. She like many others know that I am just stirring the pot and just brightening up the place the little. So anyway no real hard feelings met. Here is to a drink.

No hard feelings at all! Cheers! Here's to a fine rivalry our favourite teams enjoy!

A real pleasure. Grazie/Hvala

[LewEngBridewell]

Oh, and apologies for getting wound up. I rarely get like that. I've not had the pleasure of chatting much with you before, so I wasn't used to your style

[darwin dali]

:)

Oh, and apologies for getting wound up. I rarely get like that. I've not had the pleasure of chatting much with you before, so I wasn't used to your style

Yeah, Kiki has her own style - you'll learn...

[AKR]

:)

Oh, and apologies for getting wound up. I rarely get like that. I've not had the pleasure of chatting much with you before, so I wasn't used to your style

Appology accepted friend.

[F1er]

called me by my name Kiki.

Kiki-riki?