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[bud]

Even a greater sign of weakness is reverting to nit picking grammatical errors... But in actual fact if you werent out to try and belittle me you would have had the intelligence to realize it referred to not only your post but served as a future reference!

End of the day Casey is winning races and some fans (bandwagon Rossi supporters) can't handle it!

[andrew]

It's not nitpicking. I can't help if I pay attention to detail. I am definately not out to belittle anyone, that's not my game. If you think I am you are very much mistaken.

All rifers will have a certain amount of bandwagon fans as long as they are winning, but ofr what it's worth I have supported Rossi since he started in MotoGP.

[F1er]

Stoner has been massive this year.Simply fantastic. He's on another level to everyone else,keeping in mind there are 4 factory Hondas.

[Frontrunner]

You think Ducati still wish they had Stoner riding for them. He is the only guy out there that can ride that so called push bike and find more time out of it. Rossi needs a Japanese bike if he wants to be a a real threat.

[Frontrunner]

Rossi likely to withdraw from Japanese MotoGP

Japan was hit by an earthquake, tsunami and nuclear emergency in March, but the race was rescheduled for 2 October.
"I really don't think I'll go to Japan," 32-year-old Rossi said.
"I was hoping the championship organisers would make the right decision, but that hasn't been the case and now we've got a serious problem."

It looks like Rossi is the only rider that won't be going then as others have change their minds.

[oaba09]

wasn't the japanese grand prix already cleared by "experts"?

I just don't get why these riders are so scared to go there when there's nothing to be scared about....The experts wouldn't give the go signal if they think that the radiation level would be dangerous to the riders...

[racechick]

You think Ducati still wish they had Stoner riding for them. He is the only guy out there that can ride that so called push bike and find more time out of it. Rossi needs a Japanese bike if he wants to be a a real threat.

Stoner didnt like it that Ducatti werent happy when he had all that time off ill. I think Ducatti are happy to have Rossi and his team developing the bike. The Japanese bikes Rossi rode werent so good till he and his team sorted them out, he made them what they are. I think he likes the challenge of developing the bike. If it gets sorted out (it looks to be a bigger job than the jap bikes were) then two riders will score points on it and that will be better for Ducatti. If only one is scoring points and he's ill a lot or gets injured then Ducatti are stuffed.
Credit to Stoner for being able to ride that Ducatti, but Ducatti need a bike that is ridable for more than one person. And Rossi (with his team)has the proven record to be able to do that. The Ducatti is proving a tough nut to crack but I suspect there is progress behind the scenes, Rossi doesnt seem too concerned. I still think he's the best rider (not bandwagonning, just love him!)

[andrew]

Rossi likely to withdraw from Japanese MotoGP

Japan was hit by an earthquake, tsunami and nuclear emergency in March, but the race was rescheduled for 2 October.
"I really don't think I'll go to Japan," 32-year-old Rossi said.
"I was hoping the championship organisers would make the right decision, but that hasn't been the case and now we've got a serious problem."

It looks like Rossi is the only rider that won't be going then as others have change their minds.

Actually if you read this it sounds like he is voicing the concerns of most of the paddock.

The main reason is that the centre is not under control. Two or three days ago there was another earthquake. If something wrong happens when we are there: this is the biggest fear, the main reason.

Have to agree with him. If there is still a high liklihood of further earthquakes it is stupid to go, especially if you are wobbling about a track on 2 wheels.

[Frontrunner]

I agree, it is not right for the Motegi round to go ahead, all riders have said something during the season about not going. But now I does seems more riders have decided that they will be there after the FIM has given it the okay' Anyway will see what will happen when Motegi comes up.

Stoner didnt like it that Ducatti werent happy when he had all that time off ill. I think Ducatti are happy to have Rossi and his team developing the bike. The Japanese bikes Rossi rode werent so good till he and his team sorted them out, he made them what they are. I think he likes the challenge of developing the bike. If it gets sorted out (it looks to be a bigger job than the jap bikes were) then two riders will score points on it and that will be better for Ducatti. If only one is scoring points and he's ill a lot or gets injured then Ducatti are stuffed. Credit to Stoner for being able to ride that Ducatti, but Ducatti need a bike that is ridable for more than one person. And Rossi (with his team)has the proven record to be able to do that. The Ducatti is proving a tough nut to crack but I suspect there is progress behind the scenes, Rossi doesnt seem too concerned. I still think he's the best rider (not bandwagonning, just love him!)

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Its all about the chassis, Its up to Ducati to break tradition and change their chassis design like the Japanese bikes. The thing is will they do it for next years 1000cc bike??

[racechick]

I agree, it is not right for the Motegi round to go ahead, all riders have said something during the season about not going. But now I does seems more riders have decided that they will be there after the FIM has given it the okay' Anyway will see what will happen when Motegi comes up.

Stoner didnt like it that Ducatti werent happy when he had all that time off ill. I think Ducatti are happy to have Rossi and his team developing the bike. The Japanese bikes Rossi rode werent so good till he and his team sorted them out, he made them what they are. I think he likes the challenge of developing the bike. If it gets sorted out (it looks to be a bigger job than the jap bikes were) then two riders will score points on it and that will be better for Ducatti. If only one is scoring points and he's ill a lot or gets injured then Ducatti are stuffed. Credit to Stoner for being able to ride that Ducatti, but Ducatti need a bike that is ridable for more than one person. And Rossi (with his team)has the proven record to be able to do that. The Ducatti is proving a tough nut to crack but I suspect there is progress behind the scenes, Rossi doesnt seem too concerned. I still think he's the best rider (not bandwagonning, just love him!)

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Its all about the chassis, Its up to Ducati to break tradition and change their chassis design like the Japanese bikes. The thing is will they do it for next years 1000cc bike??

Im not much of a techie but as i understand it, its something to do with making the chassis more flexible? More responsive to riders? And have they gone a bit towards this already with the front end? Sorry thats about as technical as i get

[andrew]

I agree, it is not right for the Motegi round to go ahead, all riders have said something during the season about not going. But now I does seems more riders have decided that they will be there after the FIM has given it the okay' Anyway will see what will happen when Motegi comes up.

I would imagine that the riders of Japenese bikes will have virtually no choice but Ducatti being Italian, missing the Japanese GP isn't such a big thing from the stance of the marketing people.

[Frontrunner]

I agree, it is not right for the Motegi round to go ahead, all riders have said something during the season about not going. But now I does seems more riders have decided that they will be there after the FIM has given it the okay' Anyway will see what will happen when Motegi comes up.

Stoner didnt like it that Ducatti werent happy when he had all that time off ill. I think Ducatti are happy to have Rossi and his team developing the bike. The Japanese bikes Rossi rode werent so good till he and his team sorted them out, he made them what they are. I think he likes the challenge of developing the bike. If it gets sorted out (it looks to be a bigger job than the jap bikes were) then two riders will score points on it and that will be better for Ducatti. If only one is scoring points and he's ill a lot or gets injured then Ducatti are stuffed. Credit to Stoner for being able to ride that Ducatti, but Ducatti need a bike that is ridable for more than one person. And Rossi (with his team)has the proven record to be able to do that. The Ducatti is proving a tough nut to crack but I suspect there is progress behind the scenes, Rossi doesnt seem too concerned. I still think he's the best rider (not bandwagonning, just love him!)

.

Its all about the chassis, Its up to Ducati to break tradition and change their chassis design like the Japanese bikes. The thing is will they do it for next years 1000cc bike??

Im not much of a techie but as i understand it, its something to do with making the chassis more flexible? More responsive to riders? And have they gone a bit towards this already with the front end? Sorry thats about as technical as i get

Ducati: carbon fibre chassis and the engine is load bearing for the chassis.
Honda and Yamaha: aluminium chassis and the engine just sit in the chassis (isn't load bearing)

All I can say RC that the Ducati is a hard bike to ride, simply as that, for what reason, I don't know but it has to do with their famous chassis design which they might think of changing for their MotoGp bike. Its a big thing for Ducati to change chassis design but if they want to win they need really consider what Jeremy Burgess and the rest of Rossi's engeering team want for next years bike.

[racechick]

I agree, it is not right for the Motegi round to go ahead, all riders have said something during the season about not going. But now I does seems more riders have decided that they will be there after the FIM has given it the okay' Anyway will see what will happen when Motegi comes up.

Stoner didnt like it that Ducatti werent happy when he had all that time off ill. I think Ducatti are happy to have Rossi and his team developing the bike. The Japanese bikes Rossi rode werent so good till he and his team sorted them out, he made them what they are. I think he likes the challenge of developing the bike. If it gets sorted out (it looks to be a bigger job than the jap bikes were) then two riders will score points on it and that will be better for Ducatti. If only one is scoring points and he's ill a lot or gets injured then Ducatti are stuffed. Credit to Stoner for being able to ride that Ducatti, but Ducatti need a bike that is ridable for more than one person. And Rossi (with his team)has the proven record to be able to do that. The Ducatti is proving a tough nut to crack but I suspect there is progress behind the scenes, Rossi doesnt seem too concerned. I still think he's the best rider (not bandwagonning, just love him!)

.

Its all about the chassis, Its up to Ducati to break tradition and change their chassis design like the Japanese bikes. The thing is will they do it for next years 1000cc bike??

Im not much of a techie but as i understand it, its something to do with making the chassis more flexible? More responsive to riders? And have they gone a bit towards this already with the front end? Sorry thats about as technical as i get

Ducati: carbon fibre chassis and the engine is load bearing for the chassis.
Honda and Yamaha: aluminium chassis and the engine just sit in the chassis (isn't load bearing)

All I can say RC that the Ducati is a hard bike to ride, simply as that, for what reason, I don't know but it has to do with their famous chassis design which they might think of changing for their MotoGp bike. Its a big thing for Ducati to change chassis design but if they want to win they need really consider what Jeremy Burgess and the rest of Rossi's engeering team want for next years bike.

Be interesting to see what happens. ive just been looking on the net for more info and Ducatti boss has now hinted that the Chassis will change but not the engine.

[andrew]

I agree, it is not right for the Motegi round to go ahead, all riders have said something during the season about not going. But now I does seems more riders have decided that they will be there after the FIM has given it the okay' Anyway will see what will happen when Motegi comes up.

Stoner didnt like it that Ducatti werent happy when he had all that time off ill. I think Ducatti are happy to have Rossi and his team developing the bike. The Japanese bikes Rossi rode werent so good till he and his team sorted them out, he made them what they are. I think he likes the challenge of developing the bike. If it gets sorted out (it looks to be a bigger job than the jap bikes were) then two riders will score points on it and that will be better for Ducatti. If only one is scoring points and he's ill a lot or gets injured then Ducatti are stuffed. Credit to Stoner for being able to ride that Ducatti, but Ducatti need a bike that is ridable for more than one person. And Rossi (with his team)has the proven record to be able to do that. The Ducatti is proving a tough nut to crack but I suspect there is progress behind the scenes, Rossi doesnt seem too concerned. I still think he's the best rider (not bandwagonning, just love him!)

.

Its all about the chassis, Its up to Ducati to break tradition and change their chassis design like the Japanese bikes. The thing is will they do it for next years 1000cc bike??

Im not much of a techie but as i understand it, its something to do with making the chassis more flexible? More responsive to riders? And have they gone a bit towards this already with the front end? Sorry thats about as technical as i get

Ducati: carbon fibre chassis and the engine is load bearing for the chassis.
Honda and Yamaha: aluminium chassis and the engine just sit in the chassis (isn't load bearing)

All I can say RC that the Ducati is a hard bike to ride, simply as that, for what reason, I don't know but it has to do with their famous chassis design which they might think of changing for their MotoGp bike. Its a big thing for Ducati to change chassis design but if they want to win they need really consider what Jeremy Burgess and the rest of Rossi's engeering team want for next years bike.

Be interesting to see what happens. ive just been looking on the net for more info and Ducatti boss has now hinted that the Chassis will change but not the engine.

The engine is ok but it's teh concept of the chassis that is the problem. There is not enough flex in it and the riders don't have enough confidence in the front end. It's a real dog of a bike. Stoner's style is quite different to Rossi's. I think the Ducatti just suited Stoner a lot better than Rossi. Obviously, it has never suited Hayden. You'd think alarm bells would have been ringing at Ducatti when Hayden was miles back compared to Stoner but seemingly they were not.

[racechick]

I think they knew. Thats why Rossi and his team are in and Ducatti are now prepared to change the chassis. Its not a quick change though. Rossi has said he hasnt underestimated what he's in for,he knew how much needed doing; but Burgess has said that he(Burgess) has underestimated how much the Honda and Yamaha have improved this year.