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[myownalias]

If the BBC want to save money on the coverage itself; ditch Jake Humphrey & Eddie Jordan, ditch practice coverage and the forum then go straight to race coverage with MB and DC five minute before the start of Q and the race,

Problem with that is that you lose almost everything that makes the BBC the superior choice. The only benefit you get is the Brundle/DC pairing, which could be shifted to another channel, and the fact that it only costs your licence fee to watch it.

Yes that is true but I'd rather have reduced coverage rather than a four minute ad break every 10 to 15 minutes and it will still remain completely free-to-air! Free uninterrupted coverage is better than missing vital parts of the race through ad breaks and being reduced to probably 45 minute edits on the BBC several hours after the race is finished! I have to the problem of avoiding results before watching the highlights; in today's connected society; it's so easy to find out the result accidentially, if I know what happened, I'm no longer interested in watching the race edit!

[racechick]

If the BBC want to save money on the coverage itself; ditch Jake Humphrey & Eddie Jordan, ditch practice coverage and the forum then go straight to race coverage with MB and DC five minute before the start of Q and the race,

Problem with that is that you lose almost everything that makes the BBC the superior choice. The only benefit you get is the Brundle/DC pairing, which could be shifted to another channel, and the fact that it only costs your licence fee to watch it.

Yes that is true but I'd rather have reduced coverage rather than a four minute ad break every 10 to 15 minutes and it will still remain completely free-to-air! Free uninterrupted coverage is better than missing vital parts of the race through ad breaks and being reduced to probably 45 minute edits on the BBC several hours after the race is finished! I have to the problem of avoiding results before watching the highlights; in today's connected society; it's so easy to find out the result accidentially, if I know what happened, I'm no longer interested in watching the race edit!

There wont be ad breaks, but thats not the point here.

[Denthúl]

If the BBC want to save money on the coverage itself; ditch Jake Humphrey & Eddie Jordan, ditch practice coverage and the forum then go straight to race coverage with MB and DC five minute before the start of Q and the race,

Problem with that is that you lose almost everything that makes the BBC the superior choice. The only benefit you get is the Brundle/DC pairing, which could be shifted to another channel, and the fact that it only costs your licence fee to watch it.

Yes that is true but I'd rather have reduced coverage rather than a four minute ad break every 10 to 15 minutes and it will still remain completely free-to-air! Free uninterrupted coverage is better than missing vital parts of the race through ad breaks and being reduced to probably 45 minute edits on the BBC several hours after the race is finished! I have to the problem of avoiding results before watching the highlights; in today's connected society; it's so easy to find out the result accidentially, if I know what happened, I'm no longer interested in watching the race edit!

Sky have confirmed that there will be no advertising breaks during the sessions themselves, but there will be during the build up and post-race coverage. They've also agreed to cover the same sessions as the BBC. So in that respect it's not a problem. However, the cost is ridiculous and there's a risk that the programming quality will not be as high. Viewing figures will also be much less, considering that peak football viewings have been 2.5m and cricket, which is a niche sport like Formula One, have peaked at 1.5m but are usually around 0.5m on average. How this can be profitable for Sky, I really don't know.

Also, Bernie on Five Live has been contradicting himself. He's told teams that it will be a full tape-delayed race shown on the non-live BBC weekends, but on Five Live he's saying it will be a one hour extended highlights show like the BBC make now. Which is it, old man?

[racechick]

If the BBC want to save money on the coverage itself; ditch Jake Humphrey & Eddie Jordan, ditch practice coverage and the forum then go straight to race coverage with MB and DC five minute before the start of Q and the race,

Problem with that is that you lose almost everything that makes the BBC the superior choice. The only benefit you get is the Brundle/DC pairing, which could be shifted to another channel, and the fact that it only costs your licence fee to watch it.

Yes that is true but I'd rather have reduced coverage rather than a four minute ad break every 10 to 15 minutes and it will still remain completely free-to-air! Free uninterrupted coverage is better than missing vital parts of the race through ad breaks and being reduced to probably 45 minute edits on the BBC several hours after the race is finished! I have to the problem of avoiding results before watching the highlights; in today's connected society; it's so easy to find out the result accidentially, if I know what happened, I'm no longer interested in watching the race edit!

Sky have confirmed that there will be no advertising breaks during the sessions themselves, but there will be during the build up and post-race coverage. They've also agreed to cover the same sessions as the BBC. So in that respect it's not a problem. However, the cost is ridiculous and there's a risk that the programming quality will not be as high. Viewing figures will also be much less, considering that peak football viewings have been 2.5m and cricket, which is a niche sport like Formula One, have peaked at 1.5m but are usually around 0.5m on average. How this can be profitable for Sky, I really don't know.

Also, Bernie on Five Live has been contradicting himself. He's told teams that it will be a full tape-delayed race shown on the non-live BBC weekends, but on Five Live he's saying it will be a one hour extended highlights show like the BBC make now. Which is it, old man?

Lying money fuelled old fart!!

[myownalias]

If the BBC want to save money on the coverage itself; ditch Jake Humphrey & Eddie Jordan, ditch practice coverage and the forum then go straight to race coverage with MB and DC five minute before the start of Q and the race,

Problem with that is that you lose almost everything that makes the BBC the superior choice. The only benefit you get is the Brundle/DC pairing, which could be shifted to another channel, and the fact that it only costs your licence fee to watch it.

Yes that is true but I'd rather have reduced coverage rather than a four minute ad break every 10 to 15 minutes and it will still remain completely free-to-air! Free uninterrupted coverage is better than missing vital parts of the race through ad breaks and being reduced to probably 45 minute edits on the BBC several hours after the race is finished! I have to the problem of avoiding results before watching the highlights; in today's connected society; it's so easy to find out the result accidentially, if I know what happened, I'm no longer interested in watching the race edit!

There wont be ad breaks, but thats not the point here.

No ad breaks on Sky? The only time I have not seen ad breaks is during PPV events, are you saying that it will be PPV?

[andrew]

If the BBC want to save money on the coverage itself; ditch Jake Humphrey & Eddie Jordan, ditch practice coverage and the forum then go straight to race coverage with MB and DC five minute before the start of Q and the race,

Problem with that is that you lose almost everything that makes the BBC the superior choice. The only benefit you get is the Brundle/DC pairing, which could be shifted to another channel, and the fact that it only costs your licence fee to watch it.

Yes that is true but I'd rather have reduced coverage rather than a four minute ad break every 10 to 15 minutes and it will still remain completely free-to-air! Free uninterrupted coverage is better than missing vital parts of the race through ad breaks and being reduced to probably 45 minute edits on the BBC several hours after the race is finished! I have to the problem of avoiding results before watching the highlights; in today's connected society; it's so easy to find out the result accidentially, if I know what happened, I'm no longer interested in watching the race edit!

Sky have confirmed that there will be no advertising breaks during the sessions themselves, but there will be during the build up and post-race coverage. They've also agreed to cover the same sessions as the BBC. So in that respect it's not a problem. However, the cost is ridiculous and there's a risk that the programming quality will not be as high. Viewing figures will also be much less, considering that peak football viewings have been 2.5m and cricket, which is a niche sport like Formula One, have peaked at 1.5m but are usually around 0.5m on average. How this can be profitable for Sky, I really don't know.

Also, Bernie on Five Live has been contradicting himself. He's told teams that it will be a full tape-delayed race shown on the non-live BBC weekends, but on Five Live he's saying it will be a one hour extended highlights show like the BBC make now. Which is it, old man?

Lying money fuelled old fart!!

Tight-wad money wasting BBC with screwed up priorities would be closer to the truth.

[FlyingFox]

It’s a sad day indeed that F1 will be going over to Sky. That bloody company think they own the TV rights to the planet and will stomp on anyone to get what they want, even the BBC, who’s coverage of F1 is excellent. Great build up in the qualifying and race programmes with an all round experienced team. EJ, DC, Jake Humphreys and Martin Brundle who’s knowledge about F1 is surpassed only by Murray Walker.

I can remember watching the first race of the now defunct A1GP on Sky with that stupid blonde bint who just didn’t have a clue about motor racing. If that’s the future of F1 broadcasting in this country then the sport is doomed, lost revenue for the teams and lost interest in the sport for the armchair viewer.

If FOTA take this lying down then I’ll be surprised. Bernie Ecclestone should go throw himself under the Safety Car, the bloody turncoat.

[phonedog]

I cannot believe this....BBC is the best coverage...f*** payments !

[Juliet P]

#f1 From their comments on Sky News website looks like John Watson and Tony Jardine positioning themselves for a role with Sky F1 next year

It gets worse

Oh dear God.

[Ri21]

The only good thing to come out of all this - is to see how passionate f1 fans really are
but it just goes to show you can be truly passionate about something and give someone the biggest audience ratings they have seen (which proves they have a good thing going) and yet they take it away from us and hand it to Satan

Yeah i think this is gonna take me a while to get over bad times ahead

[sark kayaker]

Having just watched Bernie tell a BBC reporter that He told the teams that the BBc will show the whole race as highlights but has suggested they only put on a 1 hr programme from 6 to 7 o'clock , I think horner and whitmarsh have had the wool pulled over thier eyes , I just hope the team sponsers can get their heads together and start dictating who controls f1 , Bernie needs putting in a home in bahrain safely away from our beloved sport.

The coverage from the last few years has engrossed me so much that I travelled some distance to the british gp this year , no more of my money will go to f1 until they oust this silver haired tyrant.
Let the teams rule - the racing is what matters

[Irv the Swerve]

f*** SKY!

[tco]

If everyone logs a complaint on http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints and makes sure that they tick the box asking for a reply, the complaints must be answered within a specified time and the complaint will be properly logged. This the only way we have of indicating our feelings on the matter to those who might be in a postion to change somethings.

For example at the moment the BBC are saying that they will only show highlights, Bernie is reported to have said that they will show "deferred" whole race tapes. I know that getting Bernie to say something useful is like nailing jelly to the wall, but this one possible thing we might be able to influence. Having said that, I do not see where the saving is in deffering whole races. We also want to know how much they are to be deferred by, Five minutes? An hour?, A day? A week?

We cannot win this war but we may win the battle.

Barbara Slater clearly cannot be trusted to keep to any deal that she may have signed as she has already torn up the one that was in place to keep F1 GP on BBC in full until the end of 2013. We need to put pressure on the BBC, Sky are just taking advantage of the situation in their quest to get a monopoly on TV sport.

[FlyingFox]

Here is my complaint to the BBC:

I understand the cutbacks the BBC have to make in these tough economic times but why Formula 1. Why not get rid of Cash in the attic or Bargain Hunters, neither of which is more popular than F1. Even better scrap Deadenders oh sorry, Eastenders. That program for people with manic depression.

This is a dark day for free-to-air TV when the BBC just roll over and die without putting much thought into the very people who you charge a substantial amount of money just to have a TV in their homes and decide to scrap a sport which has its very roots in the UK.

Barbara Slater should hang her head in shame in what she has done today.

BBC the Blown Budget Corporation

[andrew]

He told the teams that the BBc will show the whole race as highlights

How can you show the whole race as highlights? It's either the whole race or highlights.

I think horner and whitmarsh have had the wool pulled over thier eyes , I just hope the team sponsers can get their heads together and start dictating who controls f1 ,

I doubt it. They are perfectly happy with this. The way I see it is they get a slice of teh free to air revenue and then another hit from the pay to view revenue.

Bernie needs putting in a home in bahrain safely away from our beloved sport.

Why? MrE is a businessman. It is his business to generate a return for CVC and its investors. If he wasn't maximising the possible returns then he wouldn't be doing his job would he? F1 is not a sport for us enthusiasts, it is a business. Anyone who says that they would have done something different if they were in MrE's place to my mind is a liar and not a very good businessman/woman.

This mess has been caused by the BBC not wanting to pay a not unreasonable amount to maintain the coverage as it is at the moment. If you want someone to blame, blame the BBC. Look at how much money they waste on channels with low viewing figures and the sheer number of pundits and presentors they send to cover various sports and events. The BBC has been wasting money for years in this way and the mess with F1 is the result as they claim to not have the cash to spare.