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[f1ea]

If they hadnt done the dirty on him in Germay last year they wouldnt need to be getting him back on form, he wouldnt be psyched out.

So he's psyched out?
in such case, he should be fired. Period.

Seemingly you are wrong. I just state things as I see them and if it upsets the Tifosi then tough, I just won't book a holiday to Italy.

Where did this comedian come from??

Why would Ferrari deliberately screw up Massa's championship, sure they've made mistakes, but you think they did them on purpose? I guess pitting Alonso in Abu Dhabi last year was designed to screw Alonso then?

All teams have made screw ups, I don't see them being unusually common towards Massa (and I think a proper comparison would be the number of team mistakes that cost his team mate). Nor does correlation indicate causation. Even if Massa has suffered proportionally more, it doesn't indicate intention.

I can't remember as far back as Kimi, but with Alonso I've already mentioned the Abu Dhabi incident (how do you suppose that happened, were Ferrari conspiring against him too? Or was it bad luck, but then why weren't problems with Massa bad luck/mistakes?), also the mistake they made in Spa qualifying, seeing Alonso pretty far back (I think it was Massa ahead of him there in qualifying).

Actually, Ferrari put Kimi on wet tires that one time in Malaysia only to plug in a Magnun commercial.

Red Bull were also hoping to screw Vettel over last yr. And now they are doing it to Webber.

Mclaren are also deliberately screwing Button... oh no wait... they are making Lewis crash: "yes Lewis, you fit, go for it".

[andrew]

Seemingly you are wrong. I just state things as I see them and if it upsets the Tifosi then tough, I just won't book a holiday to Italy.

Where did this comedian come from??

Say what now?

[bud]

Vaptin you're wrong, we don't like Massa more than Alonso, we don't like Alonso at all!


Again you Alonso fans are the biggest hypocrite when it comes to team favouritism. So much so it's sickening!

[andrew]

...we don't like Alonso at all!

I saw a re-run of last years German GP earlier. The post-race "butter won't melt" interview with Alonso along with him spitting the dummy out during the race ("This is ridiculous") reminded me how much I dislike El Cheato!

I can't help but think what this years Alonso controversy will be. Seems to be nearly a yearly occurance that Alonso is involved in some sort of underhand shenanigans.

[bud]

Yeah it's nearly an annual event for Alonso to be involved in a "gate"

[vaptin]

Vaptin you're wrong, we don't like Massa more than Alonso, we don't like Alonso at all!

The two aren't mutually exclusive, not liking Alonso at all doesn't invalidate my point.

Again you Alonso fans are the biggest hypocrite when it comes to team favouritism. So much so it's sickening!

Why don't you try posting some actual points, anyone can sling mud around. Again, stepping into trolling territory here.

[bud]

That is my point, you got anything to add aside from calling me a troll for the second time now?

[vaptin]

That is my point, you got anything to add aside from calling me a troll for the second time now?

So your point is Alonso fans are hypocrites because they call you a troll?

You posted twice about Alonso fans being hypocrites (which can clearly seen to be inflammatory), without any explanation or substantiation of what it is you meant, and why you believe that. That's my damn point, it just leaves a reaction open. If you gave a list of reasons and arguments, people can respond to that, if you don't, what do you expect to get in response?

The conversation was steered in such a way, that it was inviting angry responses.

[bud]

You missed it entirely, you're way off! You can call it trolling all you like, just because it hit a nerve with you. End of the day everything posted in here in defense of Ferrari favoring Alonso is what I'm talking about, it's on topic but if you see otherwise then so be it. Dont call me a troll again!

[headless]

Ferrari favoring Alonso

Not anything like McLaren favouring Hammy??

[andrew]

Ferrari favoring Alonso

Not anything like McLaren favouring Hammy??

That doesn't happen, you have no evidence at all to prove such hollow claims. McLaren are against Hamilton and penalise him etc etc.

Right that's covered all the usual stuff from the Hamiltonians so this thread can stay on-topic seeing as I have just covered 5 pages of pro-Hamilton propoganda posts.

It's a servce I provide you know.

[vaptin]

You missed it entirely, you're way off! You can call it trolling all you like, just because it hit a nerve with you. End of the day everything posted in here in defense of Ferrari favoring Alonso is what I'm talking about, it's on topic but if you see otherwise then so be it. Dont call me a troll again!

Well, yeah I'm off because I was guessing.

So its hypocritical to defend Ferrari favouring Alonso?

[headless]

Ferrari favoring Alonso

Not anything like McLaren favouring Hammy??

That doesn't happen, you have no evidence at all to prove such hollow claims.

[racechick]

Ferrari favoring Alonso

Not anything like McLaren favouring Hammy??

Nope nothing like that. Your clutching at straws now.

[bud]

You missed it entirely, you're way off! You can call it trolling all you like, just because it hit a nerve with you. End of the day everything posted in here in defense of Ferrari favoring Alonso is what I'm talking about, it's on topic but if you see otherwise then so be it. Dont call me a troll again!

Well, yeah I'm off because I was guessing.

So its hypocritical to defend Ferrari favouring Alonso?

It is when Alonso fans whinged at the so called favouring Lewis got whilst team mate to Alonso at McLaren.
Want equal treatment in that instance even when Hamilton had a better shot at the title, your own words.. it makes sense to put all effort behind the guy with the best chance at the title.