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[texasmr2]

It is a well known fact that the more components an engine has the cost doubles but I'm fine with boosted V6's, I wonder what displacement will be decided upon? I just wish these changes would/could take place sooner than 2014 as I'm in need of a change in format.

[myownalias]

I wonder what displacement will be decided upon?

According the BBC article, it will be the same as the inline 4; 1600cc.

[darwin dali]

Audi impacted 2013 engine decision - Newey
ESPNF1 Staff

Adrian Newey has revealed that Audi was the driving force behind the aborted plans for Formula One to switch to four-cylinder engines in 2013.

Last December the FIA's World Motor Sport Council agreed on the switch to four cylinders, only for the F1 Commission to change its mind last week and propose V6s be brought in for 2014 instead. Newey said Audi's wavering commitment had contributed to the switch from four-cylinders to six, after the German car giant made a u-turn on a pledge to join the sport if it switched to four pots.

"The initial decision from the engine working group was for a four-cylinder turbo to be introduced for 2013," said Newey. "The big driver behind that was Audi. They said they would come into the sport if there was a four-cylinder turbo, and that's what everyone agreed in order to get Audi in. They subsequently decided that they won't bother after all, thank you very much, and we were lumbered with a four-cylinder turbo."

He said a V6 turbo is a much more practical solution due to its dimensions.

"You can then get into the politics of the whole thing," Newey added. "Certainly from an engineering point of view a four-cylinder turbo is not a nice engine to install, you've basically got to put a spaceframe around it, you can't make it a properly structural. A racing V6 is a much nicer engine to package. That will now be the 2014 engine."

Under the original four-cylinder the engines were only going to be allowed to rev to 12,000 rpm, but Newey said that might be increased amid concerns that the engines will sound too muted.

"The revs are still being debated, but it looks as if it will probably be around 14,000 or 16,000," he said.

[What's Burning?]

Sounds like a scapegoat to me. I mean what kind of state is the sport in where they'd be willing to "revolutionize" the engine specs in order to bring in one new engine manufacturer that wasn't even fully committed?

[myownalias]

Well, it's official...

Formula 1 will officially switch to a 1.6-litre V6 engine format from 2014 after proposals finalised by the sport's stakeholders during last weekend's European Grand Prix were rubber-stamped by the FIA's World Motorsport Council on Wednesday.

According to a statement from the sport's governing body, WMSC members agreed in a fax vote to formalise the new turbo-charged engines, which will feature energy recovery units.

The statement read: "Following a fax vote by its members, the World Motor Sport Council has ratified the engine regulations recently drawn up in consultation with the main stakeholders in Formula One.

"The new power plant will be a V6 1.6 turbo unit with energy recovery systems. This new formula will come into effect as from the start of the 2014 FIA Formula One World Championship season."

F1's teams and the FIA were in deadlock over the engine situation for several weeks until agreement was reached during a Formula 1 Commission meeting prior to the European Grand Prix weekend to delay introducing the regulations by a year to 2014.

The new plans also featured a change in the format from a four cylinder engine to a six cylinder unit - Ferrari having been against the former on marketing grounds. Mercedes and Cosworth had also voiced concerns about development costs. F1 technical chiefs then met in Valencia to give their formal backing to the V6, 1.6-litre plan.

The teams indicated after the Valencia gathering that they would ask for a rise in the proposed rev limit of 12,000rpm to 15,000rpm. It remains unclear whether this was included in the ratified plans. Similarly it is not known whether a request to delay the introduction of new chassis rules set for 2013 - to coincide with the new engine plan - has been successful.

Source: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/92727

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

It might be a convenient excuse but I'm not sure it rises to the level of a scapegoat. The revolutionary aspect of the Ford Cosworth DFV was as the first engine designed as part of the chassis. Engineers love that sort of thing -- it was Chapman's idea -- but it's much less handy with such a narrow engine package as an L-4. Unless you mount it transversely. Then mating it to the bag of gears becomes problematic.

[andrew]

From what I have read, the only one out of the current engine manufacturers interested in an I4 format was Renault, but even then they were open to persuasion.

Ferrari, Mercedes, Cosworth and Renault seem happy with the decision to opt for a V6 format. Whilst Audi say they are no longer interested in entering F1, hopefully using a variation of the current engine format will attract new engine manufacturers to F1 through a reasonable degree of stabilisation in the engine reg's. There would have been little point in pursuing an engine format to please a manufacturer who is no longer interested in entering F1.

The real engineering challenge will be to achieve good fuel economy without loosing performance or carrying too much weight as these engines will be quite thirsty.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

Spy photo of Kamui Kobayashi and his Sauber pit crew reviewing starting grid procedures in their prototype 2019 F1 car, which incorporates the fossil fuel-less "green as grass" engine formula.



The proposed successor to the turbocharged V-6 formula car must be built entirely from biodegradable recycleables. Prior to the podium ceremony, the top three cars will be pushed into parc fermé, where they must be eaten by the pit crew. Finishing order shall be determined by the cars' combined "drive and dine" times.

Not pictured are the anti-CO2 exhalation masks pit crewmen will be required to wear for the duration of the race (but which may be removed while in parc fermé for the car eating phase).

It is unclear whether their engine contract with Ferrari will extended through the 2019 season but Sauber are rumoured to be in negotiations with Nestlé and La vache qui rit, who allegedly are developing more easily digested powerplants.