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#261471
You're also taking preventative steps against Alzheimer's - nicotine is proven to have a positive effect on that debilitating condition. However, you might not get old enough to experience the onset of Alzheimer's if you die prematurely of other conditions that cigarette smoking can cause :P
#261477
In today's society people are pretty much up to speed on what smoking is and what it does. From what I've seen...the people who smoke are the employees and the non smokers are management and owners. Almost across the board the line between smokers and non follows the line between educated and not, upwardly mobile and not....intelligent and not. Picking up a cigarette these days proves that you are not capable of looking into the future and planning for it.....and if you can't do something as simple as planning for your own health.....well....who in their right mind would hire you to run any part of their company?




John Lennon like a puff
Albert Einstein liked a puff
Sigmud Freund liked a puff
Issac Newton liked a puff
Thomas Edison liked a puff
The President of the United States, liked a puff.


But do please share your wisdom......


Wow. I couldn't have shown a more perfect example of what I'm saying if I had tried to think it up myself. Thanks for proving my point. Perhaps if you had someone in your family who doesn't smoke translate the first three words of my post for you....if they explain it really slowly....you'll understand. Bud even attempted to point it out for you....and you still can't quite fathom it. Time for another smoke?

I agree! If anything the smarter someone is, the more likely that their job require the stress relief and relaxation that a cig offers. Furthermore, it is a great way of meeting new people, i dont smoke but i know plenty of people who have made lots of friends just by stepping out of the pub for a smoke.


You're serious? Really?

If someone needs a smoke to deal with stress...they are not a leader, they are weak. Needing a crutch to hold you up isn't a sign of strength or intelligence. If they need a smoke to meet people, they are not social...they are addicts crowding around the nearest fix and taking solace in knowing they are not alone in their inability to cope. Meth heads love each other too.

People are judged by what they do, what they can handle without crutches and their addictions. If you have it in your head that addicts are not judged as a weaker link in society then so be it.....but I disagree and the vast majority agree with me. Doubt that? Who is passing the laws pushing smokers into the street rather than let them smoke inside where the rest of us are? Don't get me wrong, I love and appreciate the amount of money that addicts are pumping into society with each pack they buy...I mean I really appreciate your carrying so much of the tax burden.....like a ox pulling a cart...just grunt, shrug and take another step forward. Heave Betsy...heave.
#261479
In today's society people are pretty much up to speed on what smoking is and what it does. From what I've seen...the people who smoke are the employees and the non smokers are management and owners. Almost across the board the line between smokers and non follows the line between educated and not, upwardly mobile and not....intelligent and not. Picking up a cigarette these days proves that you are not capable of looking into the future and planning for it.....and if you can't do something as simple as planning for your own health.....well....who in their right mind would hire you to run any part of their company?




John Lennon like a puff
Albert Einstein liked a puff
Sigmud Freund liked a puff
Issac Newton liked a puff
Thomas Edison liked a puff
The President of the United States, liked a puff.


But do please share your wisdom......


Wow. I couldn't have shown a more perfect example of what I'm saying if I had tried to think it up myself. Thanks for proving my point. Perhaps if you had someone in your family who doesn't smoke translate the first three words of my post for you....if they explain it really slowly....you'll understand. Bud even attempted to point it out for you....and you still can't quite fathom it. Time for another smoke?

I agree! If anything the smarter someone is, the more likely that their job require the stress relief and relaxation that a cig offers. Furthermore, it is a great way of meeting new people, i dont smoke but i know plenty of people who have made lots of friends just by stepping out of the pub for a smoke.


You're serious? Really?

If someone needs a smoke to deal with stress...they are not a leader, they are weak. Needing a crutch to hold you up isn't a sign of strength or intelligence. If they need a smoke to meet people, they are not social...they are addicts crowding around the nearest fix and taking solace in knowing they are not alone in their inability to cope. Meth heads love each other too.

People are judged by what they do, what they can handle without crutches and their addictions. If you have it in your head that addicts are not judged as a weaker link in society then so be it.....but I disagree and the vast majority agree with me. Doubt that? Who is passing the laws pushing smokers into the street rather than let them smoke inside where the rest of us are? Don't get me wrong, I love and appreciate the amount of money that addicts are pumping into society with each pack they buy...I mean I really appreciate your carrying so much of the tax burden.....like a ox pulling a cart...just grunt, shrug and take another step forward. Heave Betsy...heave.



Did you just make the assumption that me and my entire family smoke? And taht we are seriously lacking common-sense because of it.

Im also not a habitual smoker. My mother smokes, from her early twenties, shes a degree away from a phd in history. My sister smokes, shes got a BA honours in History too.

I dont smoke habitually, infact the cigarettes id smoke in one year an average smoker will get through in a week. But still according to you, im a smoker, and if i wanted to i too could go to university. Where is this basis for your argument.


You lost it the moment you made a personal insult on me and my family.
#261480
In today's society people are pretty much up to speed on what smoking is and what it does. From what I've seen...the people who smoke are the employees and the non smokers are management and owners. Almost across the board the line between smokers and non follows the line between educated and not, upwardly mobile and not....intelligent and not. Picking up a cigarette these days proves that you are not capable of looking into the future and planning for it.....and if you can't do something as simple as planning for your own health.....well....who in their right mind would hire you to run any part of their company?




John Lennon like a puff
Albert Einstein liked a puff
Sigmud Freund liked a puff
Issac Newton liked a puff
Thomas Edison liked a puff
The President of the United States, liked a puff.


But do please share your wisdom......


Wow. I couldn't have shown a more perfect example of what I'm saying if I had tried to think it up myself. Thanks for proving my point. Perhaps if you had someone in your family who doesn't smoke translate the first three words of my post for you....if they explain it really slowly....you'll understand. Bud even attempted to point it out for you....and you still can't quite fathom it. Time for another smoke?

I agree! If anything the smarter someone is, the more likely that their job require the stress relief and relaxation that a cig offers. Furthermore, it is a great way of meeting new people, i dont smoke but i know plenty of people who have made lots of friends just by stepping out of the pub for a smoke.


You're serious? Really?

If someone needs a smoke to deal with stress...they are not a leader, they are weak. Needing a crutch to hold you up isn't a sign of strength or intelligence. If they need a smoke to meet people, they are not social...they are addicts crowding around the nearest fix and taking solace in knowing they are not alone in their inability to cope. Meth heads love each other too.

People are judged by what they do, what they can handle without crutches and their addictions. If you have it in your head that addicts are not judged as a weaker link in society then so be it.....but I disagree and the vast majority agree with me. Doubt that? Who is passing the laws pushing smokers into the street rather than let them smoke inside where the rest of us are? Don't get me wrong, I love and appreciate the amount of money that addicts are pumping into society with each pack they buy...I mean I really appreciate your carrying so much of the tax burden.....like a ox pulling a cart...just grunt, shrug and take another step forward. Heave Betsy...heave.



Did you just make the assumption that me and my entire family smoke? And taht we are seriously lacking common-sense because of it.

Im also not a habitual smoker. My mother smokes, from her early twenties, shes a degree away from a phd in history. My sister smokes, shes got a BA honours in History too.

I dont smoke habitually, infact the cigarettes id smoke in one year an average smoker will get through in a week. But still according to you, im a smoker, and if i wanted to i too could go to university. Where is this basis for your argument.


You lost it the moment you made a personal insult on me and my family.


You asked me to share my wisdom. So I complied with your request.

The short version. My first three words were 'IN TODAY'S SOCIETY' to which you responded with a list of dead people...some of which died coughing themselves into oblivion. Therein lies the funny part....and I'm sorry if you can't see the humor in it. :)
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#261502
In today's society people are pretty much up to speed on what smoking is and what it does. From what I've seen...the people who smoke are the employees and the non smokers are management and owners. Almost across the board the line between smokers and non follows the line between educated and not, upwardly mobile and not....intelligent and not. Picking up a cigarette these days proves that you are not capable of looking into the future and planning for it.....and if you can't do something as simple as planning for your own health.....well....who in their right mind would hire you to run any part of their company?




John Lennon like a puff
Albert Einstein liked a puff
Sigmud Freund liked a puff
Issac Newton liked a puff
Thomas Edison liked a puff
The President of the United States, liked a puff.


But do please share your wisdom......


Wow. I couldn't have shown a more perfect example of what I'm saying if I had tried to think it up myself. Thanks for proving my point. Perhaps if you had someone in your family who doesn't smoke translate the first three words of my post for you....if they explain it really slowly....you'll understand. Bud even attempted to point it out for you....and you still can't quite fathom it. Time for another smoke?

I agree! If anything the smarter someone is, the more likely that their job require the stress relief and relaxation that a cig offers. Furthermore, it is a great way of meeting new people, i dont smoke but i know plenty of people who have made lots of friends just by stepping out of the pub for a smoke.


You're serious? Really?

If someone needs a smoke to deal with stress...they are not a leader, they are weak. Needing a crutch to hold you up isn't a sign of strength or intelligence. If they need a smoke to meet people, they are not social...they are addicts crowding around the nearest fix and taking solace in knowing they are not alone in their inability to cope. Meth heads love each other too.

People are judged by what they do, what they can handle without crutches and their addictions. If you have it in your head that addicts are not judged as a weaker link in society then so be it.....but I disagree and the vast majority agree with me. Doubt that? Who is passing the laws pushing smokers into the street rather than let them smoke inside where the rest of us are? Don't get me wrong, I love and appreciate the amount of money that addicts are pumping into society with each pack they buy...I mean I really appreciate your carrying so much of the tax burden.....like a ox pulling a cart...just grunt, shrug and take another step forward. Heave Betsy...heave.


I didnt mean that they rely completely on smoking as a form of socializing, i meant it in a way which would imply that you get to know people you normally would not even approach (possibly because they look like drug addicts :wink: ).

I was just giving a different side of the argument, i do believe that addicts are the weaker link in society. Being addicted to smoking is just like obesity, you can control your urges to smoke/eat and thus dig yourself into a hole filled with disease and illness. People make fun of people for being fat but in the brain a fat person is exactly the same as a smoker.
#261521
Only difference is Billindenver has yet to come up with a reason why i could pursue university level education, the highest level of education without havng to be employed, and yet i dabble in the occasional hippie stick.
#261538
Only difference is Billindenver has yet to come up with a reason why i could pursue university level education, the highest level of education without havng to be employed, and yet i dabble in the occasional hippie stick.


Seriously. Read what you wrote. It makes no sense at all. The more you write, the more you prove my point. I can't explain why you haven't sought education...I can only say that it is obvious that you haven't.
#261541
Only difference is Billindenver has yet to come up with a reason why i could pursue university level education, the highest level of education without havng to be employed, and yet i dabble in the occasional hippie stick.


Seriously. Read what you wrote. It makes no sense at all. The more you write, the more you prove my point. I can't explain why you haven't sought education...I can only say that it is obvious that you haven't.


I lied my way into Finance and I sit next to people who studied for 12 years to get their qualifications... Let me assure you, anything worth knowing can't be taught...
#261544
Well that's an ignorant way to go through life. You think the guys that design F1 cars just pulled it outta their butt?


I'm talking about life skills.

Doesn't matter how much you study or how qualified you think you are on a subject, without the ability to communicate effectively you will never be happy. You can't teach someone to communicate, you pick that up from experience...
#261573
Only difference is Billindenver has yet to come up with a reason why i could pursue university level education, the highest level of education without havng to be employed, and yet i dabble in the occasional hippie stick.


Seriously. Read what you wrote. It makes no sense at all. The more you write, the more you prove my point. I can't explain why you haven't sought education...I can only say that it is obvious that you haven't.



What are you talking about?

Do you think i stopped school at 5 years old? What sort of warped definition of a lack of education do you have? That i didnt go university? Please, that is the most overrated thing ever. Spending every night getting wasted until that one day a week you have a couple of lectures. Yeah id rather get a job and be less of a sponge to society im afraid, and if that makes me stupid in your world, then im a total f*cktard.
#261574
Bill and Fraf, you have both just returned from a ban, and have done nothing but fight with each other since you have come back. DD has asked you to take it to PM. I am sure you don't need to be told again, otherwise a more substantial ban will be heading your way about this.
#263809
Ferrari may not use the Malboro logo, however, there are questions as to whether their new deal breaches EU laws that prohibit tobacco sponsorship.

Last month, Ferrari confirmed that they had extended with sponsorship deal with tobacco company Philip Morris with the latter reportedly coughing up $480m for the three years.

Philip Morris's brand Marlboro has been Ferrari's title sponsor since 1997, even extending their deal when tobacco advertising was banned, meaning the Marlboro logo could no longer appear on the Scuderia's F1 cars.

However, there are now questions about whether their latest extension breaches EU laws that prohibit tobacco sponsorship.

Professor John Britton, chair of the RCP's tobacco advisory group and director of the UK Centre for Tobacco Control Studies, believes it does.

"People are aware Ferrari is sponsored by Marlboro," he told The Guardian newspaper, "and the positive assets of the Ferrari team - things like danger and manliness - all translate to the brand."

Britton added that the real value of the deal rested with Ferrari's colours of red, black and white, which bare a resemblance to the Malboro colours and therefore hold a "subliminal" link.

The newspaper also revealed that Action on Smoking and Health (Ash) and the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) had written to FIA President Jean Todt asking him to "investigate the deal."

Deborah Arnott, chief executive of Ash, believes Ferrari's Malboro deal hands the Italian stable an "unfair advantage over other teams which no longer take tainted tobacco industry sponsorship."


About time.
#263827
Ferrari may not use the Malboro logo, however, there are questions as to whether their new deal breaches EU laws that prohibit tobacco sponsorship.

Last month, Ferrari confirmed that they had extended with sponsorship deal with tobacco company Philip Morris with the latter reportedly coughing up $480m for the three years.

Philip Morris's brand Marlboro has been Ferrari's title sponsor since 1997, even extending their deal when tobacco advertising was banned, meaning the Marlboro logo could no longer appear on the Scuderia's F1 cars.

However, there are now questions about whether their latest extension breaches EU laws that prohibit tobacco sponsorship.

Professor John Britton, chair of the RCP's tobacco advisory group and director of the UK Centre for Tobacco Control Studies, believes it does.

"People are aware Ferrari is sponsored by Marlboro," he told The Guardian newspaper, "and the positive assets of the Ferrari team - things like danger and manliness - all translate to the brand."

Britton added that the real value of the deal rested with Ferrari's colours of red, black and white, which bare a resemblance to the Malboro colours and therefore hold a "subliminal" link.

The newspaper also revealed that Action on Smoking and Health (Ash) and the Royal College of Physicians (RCP) had written to FIA President Jean Todt asking him to "investigate the deal."

Deborah Arnott, chief executive of Ash, believes Ferrari's Malboro deal hands the Italian stable an "unfair advantage over other teams which no longer take tainted tobacco industry sponsorship."


About time.


Would that be the same John Britton who works at Nottingham University that in 2001 accepted £3.8 million from British American Tobbacco to build a "centre of corporate social responsibility"? Don't remember him being so vocal then. :eek:
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