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By kerc
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From AutoSport:


McLaren looks set to have a fight on its hands to keep Lewis Hamilton on board for the long term after the British driver sounded out Red Bull Racing about future plans in Canada last weekend, AUTOSPORT has learned.

During an ultimately difficult event for Hamilton, who had gone into the Montreal grand prix as favourite for victory but suffered a troubled qualifying and an early exit from the race, fresh speculation emerged about what he intends to do after his current contract ends in 2012.

AUTOSPORT can reveal that Hamilton met for private talks with Red Bull Racing chief Christian Horner at the team's office buildings on Saturday evening - where the two spent at least 15 minutes together chatting in private.

Although it is not known exactly what they talked about, as one Red Bull source cheekily dismissed the get-together as nothing more than a 'social visit', it would be unlikely that the pair did not discuss future intentions.

There is no suggestion that it was anything more than a preliminary chat, or that the talks will definitely develop into something in the future, but Hamilton's actions are of intrigue amid signs of growing frustration at the competitiveness of McLaren at a time when Hamilton is in the prime of his career.

His crashes in Monaco and Canada, which have led to criticism of his mindset, are borne of the fact that he has to push so hard to try and beat Red Bull Racing.

Hamilton had started the season as Sebastian Vettel's main threat for title glory, and his challenge for the championship had looked strong when he grabbed victory in the Chinese Grand Prix.

However, since then McLaren has not made the progress that it had hoped with its car and Hamilton's difficulties in Monaco and Montreal – two races he had been expected to win – have left him 76 points adrift of Vettel in the standings.

The performance in Canada last weekend was much more of a disappointment because he had gone into the weekend as clear favourite for the victory – only for McLaren to have made an error with the drag levels it needed to take the fight to Red Bull Racing and Ferrari in qualifying.

Longer term, Hamilton and his new management team of Simon Fuller's XIX Entertainment are widely known to be weighing up future intentions for when his current contract ends after 2012, and there must be some thought being given to the fact that McLaren has not been a pacesetter in F1 since his title season in 2008.

Hamilton's only real options for the future, in terms of giving him the best chance of having a frontrunning car, are either to remain at McLaren, or make the switch to Ferrari or Red Bull Racing.

Ferrari appears to be a closed door, however, with Fernando Alonso having signed a long-term deal and the Spaniard likely to be resistant to renewing a team partnership that turned so sour when he and Hamilton were together at McLaren in 2007.

And although Red Bull Racing would appear to be an unlikely destination, with the team currently so focused on Vettel, the capture of a top-line driver like Hamilton for 2013 could be viewed as a huge coup for Red Bull chief Dietrich Mateschitz.

McLaren team principal Martin Whitmarsh has played down talk of Hamilton's frustrations, however, and thinks there are no worries about his driver's mindset at the moment.

"I think he has had an unfortunate run," said Whitmarsh when asked by AUTOSPORT about Hamilton's current difficulties. "But I think he has to be the racer he is, and I am sure he will be. I am sure he is disappointed, but he is enjoying the win for the team."

Hamilton's latest links with Red Bull Racing are nothing new and earlier this season, on the back of McLaren's troubled pre-season testing programme, there was already speculation suggesting that the driver and team could get together from 2013.

At the time, however, Hamilton insisted that his focus remained wholly on McLaren – although he did not rule out a potential switch in the future.

"Of course, I'm going to be in Formula 1 for some time, and you never know which way the wind will take you," he said in March. "As I said, for now, I'm committed to trying to make this team the most successful it can be, and I feel we can do that."

Red Bull Racing also moved at the time to play down the prospects of partnering Vettel and Hamilton – although the idea was not totally dismissed.

"It's difficult to see how you could have two drivers of Lewis and Sebastian's calibre under one roof," said Horner, during a media briefing at Silverstone.

"There tends to be fireworks, as we saw with Fernando Alonso and Lewis. So we're very happy with the line-up that we have and we'll see how things evolve."

Despite the difficulties Hamilton is facing in his current situation, those who know the former world champion well have moved quickly to suggest he will lift himself out of the troubles he is facing.

Mercedes-Benz motorsport boss Norbert Haug, who has helped guide Hamilton's career for many years, thinks that the Briton is simply going through the kind of difficult phases that all drivers experience in their careers.

"I understand Lewis perfectly and I will defend him," Haug told AUTOSPORT. "He is a good driver, he is a friend and I do not share the criticism that is on him.

"We will support him and he is a great driver. There are phases that you have to go through. There are difficult times but he will deliver okay and he is one of the great guys in the field. Of course he gets a lot of criticism, but this will make him only stronger."

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Whoa. :eek:
#260631
I thought lewis and button both extended their contracts 5 years $100million??? Only way Lewis would go to RB is if Vettel Goes to Ferrari and that aint happening. Mclaren and Hamilton have stood by each other for a long time and it would be catastrophe for them to split. Hamilton is a great driver. He knows how to win and Mclaren Showed Great pace this past weekend and that only boosted Hamilton's confidence in the mp4-26. Lewis will no doubt be a front runner come Valencia.
#260640
It would help a lot more if his teammate could either drive as fast as him, or not crash into him when he's trying to make up ground from now onwards.
#260646
Mclaren and Hamilton have stood by each other for a long time and it would be catastrophe for them to split.


how long and rewarding was the Schumacher/Ferrari relationship?
#260648
It would help a lot more if his teammate could either drive as fast as him, or not crash into him when he's trying to make up ground from now onwards.


After sleeping on it. I think Lewis should have waited to make his move on Jenson. He would have had a better opportunity later in the race... but here in lies the rub... How do tell a raceer to slow down...
#260653
Mclaren and Hamilton have stood by each other for a long time and it would be catastrophe for them to split.


how long and rewarding was the Schumacher/Ferrari relationship?


I understand the point that you are trying to make but lets not forget that schumi was going to drive for ferarri again in 2009 but had a major motor cycle accident (I dont know why the hell he was on a racing bike anways) and hampered him in filling in for the injured massa. by the time 2010 came around alonso secured a ferrari seat and massa extended his deal so schumi couldnt drive for ferrari. Believe me if the opportunity was there for him then he would have drove for ferrari instead of Merc.
#260654
What happened to my post it was rather magnanimous. :wink:

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#260659
Im a Hamilton fan, I was just stating what I thought. If there is discussion elsewhere that I missed on the subject, my bad. To the topic at hand, I think he should visit every paddock that has a race winning car. And although Macca is my favorite team and Hammy my favorite driver, they shouldn't be married for better or worse, until death do us part, neither one should become complacent..

I think him looking helps Macca keep focus.. Just as Macca should look if He is not providing race results... Keep him on his toes..
#260660
I'm not going to get into Hamilton's advantages/disadvantages (I have expressed those in other threads) but he is a talented driver and he will be in demand; so a move to Red Bull wouldn't surprise me; contracts don't seem to be worth the paper they are written on these days; nearly all contracts have a get out clause in them for a fee.
#260678
What happened to my post it was rather magnanimous. :wink:

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BUSTED I WAS!!! :D

No malintent was meant on my part to those who may have taken it the wrong way. :)

I'll dumb it down a tad ok, seem's just to be press :bs: and RBR cannot hold a cup to McLaren and I want to think Lewis is smarter than that much less entertain the idea. Yet I have seen stranger thing's happen in F1 but hey what do I know I'm only....
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By Fluffy
#260681
It would help a lot more if his teammate could either drive as fast as him, or not crash into him when he's trying to make up ground from now onwards.


It would also help if Hamilton didn't try to overtake in impossible situations.
#260686
They'd be crazy not to look and he would be crazy not to consider it. In five full seasons and a third of the current one, Red Bull have already made their way to ninth on the top-ten list of most-winning constructors with 20 victories. Ahead of them are Tyrell, on 23, and Benetton on 27; I expect them to have moved past at least one of those by the end of the season. Their cars for the past three years have been fantastic and you could argue that, without the double-deck diffusers of 2009, they would already have two championships to their name with a third being possible this year. They have Adrian Newey, leading a strong technical team, plenty of money from Dietrich Mateschitz and a real passion for racing with a party attitude. Any driver who didn't even think about going there just once would be silly.

However, making/taking any potential offer, however, is another story. At the moment, many people are questioning Hamilton's state of mind. He's frustrated that Red Bull and Vettel are running away with the championship whilst McLaren are struggling a little bit. The past couple of years the McLaren hasn't been a true title contender. Yes, Hamilton had an opportunity in 2010, but that was more down to Red Bull's reliability and mistakes than the car being on the same level. What would happen if he went to Red Bull alongside Vettel and ended up coming out second best? How would that affect him mentally?

There's also the issue of form and regulations. Red Bull are currently top, with the fastest car, but how long will that last? At the next regulation change, they could slip behind other competitors and we could see Ferrari, McLaren, Mercedes or Renault emerge as the team to beat. Making a move to the current top team, only to find that your previous team then builds the best car, would probably leave you feeling a little bit silly.

It's interesting to think about, but nothing is straightforward.
#260690
"His crashes in Monaco and Canada, which have led to criticism of his mindset, are borne of the fact that he has to push so hard to try and beat Red Bull Racing."

And yet his teammate was able to finish 2nd and 1st in those same races.
By vaptin
#260691
"His crashes in Monaco and Canada, which have led to criticism of his mindset, are borne of the fact that he has to push so hard to try and beat Red Bull Racing."

And yet his teammate was able to finish 2nd and 1st in those same races.


Third in Monaco, Alonso got second.
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