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#259455
:confused::confused::confused:
Please define racing........


•the sport of engaging in contests of speed
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By f1ea
#259460
Not sure which question you're supposing an answer to here, I wasn't aware there was a conspiracy theory. I will take it as a resounding YES, that you'd feel the very same way you're expressing if Alonso, having passed Vettel in the same manner Hamilton passed Maldonado was penalized 20 seconds effectively handing a Ferrari GP win to Button.


huh?? wont even read this to try and understand...... but there is no answer to the question really. You can go through history if you'd like an answer to a real situation. Have fun using the "search" function, you will find my opinions on these matters on plenty of posts. :)

Easy to say when you have no real chance of winning anyway.


Winning what? the race? the championship?
at least 2 drivers had a chance of winning the race, and for the championship, i guess we'll have to wait and see what the rest of the races show.

:confused::confused::confused:
Please define racing........


• the sport of engaging in contests of speed


so Football is the sport of putting the ball in the other team's net. Is that all there is to it?

Not really. But in any case.... i return to my original comment:
:bs:
#259462
Not sure which question you're supposing an answer to here, I wasn't aware there was a conspiracy theory. I will take it as a resounding YES, that you'd feel the very same way you're expressing if Alonso, having passed Vettel in the same manner Hamilton passed Maldonado was penalized 20 seconds effectively handing a Ferrari GP win to Button.


huh?? wont even read this to try and understand...... but there is no answer to the question really. You can go through history if you'd like an answer to a real situation. Have fun using the "search" function, you will find my opinions on these matters on plenty of posts. :)

Easy to say when you have no real chance of winning anyway.


Winning what? the race? the championship?
at least 2 drivers had a chance of winning the race, and for the championship, i guess we'll have to wait and see what the rest of the races show.

:confused::confused::confused:
Please define racing........


• the sport of engaging in contests of speed


so Football is the sport of putting the ball in the other team's net. Is that all there is to it?

Not really. But in any case.... i return to my original comment:
:bs:


I gave you a definition of racing not football. What's football got to do with racing?
#259463
Not sure which question you're supposing an answer to here, I wasn't aware there was a conspiracy theory. I will take it as a resounding YES, that you'd feel the very same way you're expressing if Alonso, having passed Vettel in the same manner Hamilton passed Maldonado was penalized 20 seconds effectively handing a Ferrari GP win to Button.


huh?? wont even read this to try and understand...... but there is no answer to the question really. You can go through history if you'd like an answer to a real situation. Have fun using the "search" function, you will find my opinions on these matters on plenty of posts. :)


:rofl: You could have simply said yes or no.

Listen F1ea, I understand things have been tough of late for Ferrari. Hell, they've been tough for anyone that isn't a Red Bull fan. I understand there's been little to cheer about, and that not only is Ferrari behind the Red Bulls but they're once again in the last 3 seasons behind their F1 nemesis McLaren with little hope to salvage the remainder of the season. I understand that you share Alonso's name, but this is a whole convoluted response to a YES or NO answer that you refuse to answer, because it illustrates your circular logic behind a statement made by you regarding the pass Lewis Hamilton made on Maldonado.

It's not that hard, I gave you a supposition explaining the logic and offered a clear parallel that you could say YES I'd feel the same way about or NO you'd disagree with. But you're being elusive to answer.

My point is that your opinion of that pass was that you could smell a drive through penalty coming. I offered that perhaps it wasn't so clear cut and that even William said it was a racing incident. I'm also offering that perhaps people's opinions are sometimes based solely on their POV and that given a different scenario you'd have a different opinion on the same type of event.

If this is too long to read though, or if you can't be bothered to think about it. I'd understand, it will be my last comment on this matter, but I'm now finding it quite comical that you're evading a simple yes or no answer and wanted to illustrate that, I agree it would have been easier to just show a BS smiley. :thumbup:

You didn't bother to read it but yet still posted a response. :rofl: classic.
#259467
Not sure which question you're supposing an answer to here, I wasn't aware there was a conspiracy theory. I will take it as a resounding YES, that you'd feel the very same way you're expressing if Alonso, having passed Vettel in the same manner Hamilton passed Maldonado was penalized 20 seconds effectively handing a Ferrari GP win to Button.


huh?? wont even read this to try and understand...... but there is no answer to the question really. You can go through history if you'd like an answer to a real situation. Have fun using the "search" function, you will find my opinions on these matters on plenty of posts. :)



Now...THIS, is purest form of :bs: . A grade I tells ya.
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By bud
#259470
ask for a gp to be scratched on the basis of a mediocre weekend. 8-)


Actually LDM does say that every year Ferrari has a bad one at Monaco :hehe:
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By f1ea
#259502
ask for a gp to be scratched on the basis of a mediocre weekend. 8-)


Actually LDM does say that every year Ferrari has a bad one at Monaco :hehe:


not really, he announces a breakaway :)

<<ooops indeed... fixed. You're a good observer...>
Now...THIS, is purest form of :bs: . A grade I tells ya.


uhh opposition coming from many fronts. Better get my Karate kid head band on: :karate:
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By vaptin
#259514
ask for a gp to be scratched on the basis of a mediocre weekend. 8-)


Actually LDM does say that every year Ferrari has a bad one at Monaco :hehe:


Just at Monaco? He says that every time Ferrari have a bad race.

Has anyone seen or got a replay of Schumacher's overtakes of Lewis and Rosberg at the hairpin? I want to see what actually happened there, and how it compares to Lewis's move on Massa.

From memory, I think Rosberg did jump out of Schumacher's way (presumably because they were team mates), and for his pass on Lewis on the first lap, he was already alongside before Lewis started to turn in?
#259518
ask for a gp to be scratched on the basis of a mediocre weekend. 8-)


Actually LDM does say that every year Ferrari has a bad one at Monaco :hehe:


Just at Monaco? He says that every time Ferrari have a bad race.

Has anyone seen or got a replay of Schumacher's overtakes of Lewis and Rosberg at the hairpin? I want to see what actually happened there, and how it compares to Lewis's move on Massa.

From memory, I think Rosberg did jump out of Schumacher's way (presumably because they were team mates), and for his pass on Lewis on the first lap, he was already alongside before Lewis started to turn in?


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#259528
ask for a gp to be scratched on the basis of a mediocre weekend. 8-)


Actually LDM does say that every year Ferrari has a bad one at Monaco :hehe:


Just at Monaco? He says that every time Ferrari have a bad race.

Has anyone seen or got a replay of Schumacher's overtakes of Lewis and Rosberg at the hairpin? I want to see what actually happened there, and how it compares to Lewis's move on Massa.

From memory, I think Rosberg did jump out of Schumacher's way (presumably because they were team mates), and for his pass on Lewis on the first lap, he was already alongside before Lewis started to turn in?



Lewis actually gave him room,that's why their was no contact.

Martin Brundle...

"Having seen further footage not available to me in commentary, I do think that Hamilton was treated harshly in the incident involving Pastor Maldonado, although that penalty didn't affect his sixth place.

He was all over the back of Maldonado's weaving Williams down the pit straight and he should not have been surprised to have Hamilton moving alongside him into the corner. He should have left more space or covered the inside better. I would not have penalised Lewis in this incident.

The earlier contact with Felipe Massa is less clear. Massa did turn into the hairpin very early but could well argue that he was aiming inside the wide Red Bull of Mark Webber who was on his nose.

It's also arguable that Massa was too late in defending Hamilton's move, although again he had been very close behind in the corner before, did unquestionably cause contact and damage, and Paul di Resta had already received a penalty for a similar misdemeanour. I said in commentary before the incident that there must be a 75% chance of contact while passing into that hairpin, and I stand by that"

50-50....
#259529
ask for a gp to be scratched on the basis of a mediocre weekend. 8-)


Actually LDM does say that every year Ferrari has a bad one at Monaco :hehe:


not really, he announces a breakaway :)

Now...THIS, is purest form of :bs: . A grade I tells ya.


uhh opposition coming from many fronts. Better get my Karate kid head band on: :karate:


oopsies, you're attributing me with Hammer278's quote.
#259533
I have also seen lots of angles on the replays and in neither case was Hamilton alongside; he had his front wheels just inside Maldonado's rear wheels; It's not easy to pass in Monaco; the only real overtaking places is coming out of the tunnel and going into turn one. Maldonado was ahead and had the right to turn in to the apex; clearly that's the view the steward had!

It made no difference; the penalty is null and void as Hamilton was a lap ahead of everyone else behind, I wonder if there would have been a penalty if Hamilton would have lost an position?
#259536
Hey I'm new here so I just thought I would ask "Where is the adult section??".


There's no p*rn here. only racing.

Thank's for proving my point :wink: !
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