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[What's Burning?]

I think it worked out conveniently as rumour has it India is having problems being ready on time...

And my opinion on that is; same as Bahrain; if India are not able to host the race on the agreed date; they forfeit their race for 2011, 18 races is plenty for one season!

Not to the millions of people in India and Bahrain that make money off of GP's and need that sort of economic development. Those countries would lose hundreds of millions of dollars and credibility if the race was canceled for the season. We need to have some compassion for those who have dreamed of formula one being in their country. It is these countries support that keep F1 with a high level of Global appeal.

I beg to differ although I understand what you say about compassion for the fans, this has everything to do with business, money and profit and little to do with the fans.

[nish2280]

I think it worked out conveniently as rumour has it India is having problems being ready on time...

And my opinion on that is; same as Bahrain; if India are not able to host the race on the agreed date; they forfeit their race for 2011, 18 races is plenty for one season!

Not to the millions of people in India and Bahrain that make money off of GP's and need that sort of economic development. Those countries would lose hundreds of millions of dollars and credibility if the race was canceled for the season. We need to have some compassion for those who have dreamed of formula one being in their country. It is these countries support that keep F1 with a high level of Global appeal.

I beg to differ although I understand what you say about compassion for the fans, this has everything to do with business, money and profit and little to do with the fans.

If it had anything to do with the fans they wouldnt be getting shot in the streets.

[F1er]

If Bahrain couldn't host it on the agreed date then in my opinion they should have to omit their GP for 2011; why should other GP's have to be moved to accommodate them, not to mentioned extended an already long season even further and the idea or Bahrain or India having it's race in December is ludicrous, the teams/personnel need to have a break at the end of the year!

I read a few days ago I think it was Ross Brawn saying it's crazy and the teams will protest it.

[NocturnalTendencies]

"If I was president today, Formula One would go to Bahrain over my dead body," Mosley said. "It cannot happen." - Mad Max

http://en.espnf1.com//bahrain/motorsport/story/50569.html

[Hammer278]

Sometimes it seems Jean Todt is a little puppet sending little memos to Bernie for approvals all the time. Max seemed to have more power...maybe since him and the old Gnome were best buds.

This Bahrain race is a joke, now we have to watch a race on the crappiest track in the calendar, with the knowledge of all the sh*t taking place across the sands.

And I'm pi**ed...I'm going to miss the last race of the season now. It HAD to coincide with my business trip.

[Denthúl]

Interesting. Not the choice I would have made at all, but calling for fans to boycott the race based on the actions of the Bahraini government is somewhat amusing when you really think about it.

I'd have just left it until next season, if they could get their things in order.

The timing is also ridiculous. I mean, end of October and then back in March? That's two races very close to one another which would also likely have a negative impact on the country. Same thing happened with the Malaysian grand prix, held at the end of 2000 and then the beginning of 2001. Didn't really work out well for them at all.

[Frontrunner]

So is Brazil not going to have its season finale for the third year in a row

[nish2280]

Think about it this way. Bernie has just been given X million to bring Formula One to Bahrain. The same bank account which that X million came from also supplied the same bullets which tore through the skulls and torsos of the brothers sisters of those fans sitting in the grandstands.

[hesketh308]

How can they seriously even think about hosting a race in that place?

Bahrain should be permanently taken from the calendar, I've never heard anyone even have a good thing to say about a GP there.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

You can't say I didn't warn you:

Activist warns 'day of rage' planned for race
Monday 06th June 2011, 07:44

The return of Formula 1 to Bahrain in late October will be marked with further civil unrest and protests, according to a leading human rights activist.

The FIA's decision to reinstate the race came as a surprise to many, including the teams who made it clear they didn't want to return on ethical and logistical grounds.

The people of Bahrain also showed strong resistance against its return. A further warning has been issued that the when the F1 circus roles into the city, it will be marked by a 'day of rage'.

"We have buried two bodies today who were victims of the government oppression," said Nabeel Rajab, president of the Bahrain Centre for Human Rights.

"It is a very sad moment to hear that Grand Prix feels that their benefits and their interests are more important than the human rights of people in this region.

"It’s very upsetting and the people are very upset and already they have called a day of that racing as a Day of Rage where you come out everywhere and in every city of Bahrain to show anger towards the Bahrain government, what the Bahrain regime is doing towards their own people."

Many have called for the decision to be overturned with the latest figure to weigh in on the debate, the UK's Minister of Sport, Hugh Robertson, warning that the sport will have a 'disaster' on its hands if it goes ahead.

"You cannot have a situation where politics overtakes sport," he told the Telegraph. "If that happens, you have a disaster on your hands.

"You can understand why opposition groups might want the race to go ahead if they are planning protests around it and this is a danger."

The teams are meeting later this month discuss the matter and will likely be pushing the FIA to reverse their so called unanimous decision, in which all members of the WMSC voted for the race to be reinstated - though many believe that not to be true as both team principals for Ferrari and Force India, Stefano Domenicali and Vijay Mallya respectively, are voting members and are said to be against the race.

[What's Burning?]

^^ what the hell are you doing here, you should be out there playing the ponies!

[Hammer278]

India wants clarity over date change


On Friday the FIA World Motor Sport Council said the Bahrain Grand Prix would take the place of the Indian round on October 30, with the latter being moved to December to become the season finale. However, uncertainty still hangs over the Bahrain event and Bernie Ecclestone told the Times on Tuesday: "Better that we move Bahrain to the end of the season and, if things are safe and well, then that is fine, we can go. If they are not, then we don't go and there are no problems."

A spokesperson for Indian Grand Prix promoters JPSI told ESPNF1: "Ideally, we would like to have the uncertainty end as soon as possible. Considering the enormity of logistics like ticket sales, travel and accommodation bookings etcetera, we would like to get a clear idea about the date before long."

He added: "According to the FIA website, the Indian GP has now been slotted for December 11. However, internally we haven't relaxed the deadline. Work is still being carried out as earlier [with the October race in mind]."

One of the key factors in the calendar re-jig is whether the teams agree to an extended calendar after several high-profile figures have admitted reservations about a mid-December finish. When asked whether the promoters were anxious about teams skipping the Indian GP if it is held on December 11, the JPSI spokesperson replied: "I don't think any team would skip the race."

Vicky Chandhok, president of Federation of Motor Sports Clubs of India, said that there have been no changes as far as the preparations are concerned.

"I have been told by the promoters that they are ready to host the race in either October or December," he said.

Chandhok conceded that he too would want the uncertainty to end soon but reiterated that they were fully prepared in either case. He also ruled out the possibility of some drivers or teams not attending the Indian GP if it is held in December.

"People are entitled to have different opinions," he said. "However, the key is to find a solution after considering these opinions."

He also said that regardless of the dates there won't be any change in the schedule of FIA's annual general assembly and the awards night.

"The awards ceremony will take place on December 11," he added.

When asked whether there were chances of the first Indian GP getting remembered more for events off the track than on it, Chandhok replied: "Why should it be the case? It's not that some overbridge has collapsed [Referring to one of the events that brought infamy to the 2010 Commonwealth Games in Delhi]."

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This is very unfair not only on India, but also the spectators, the the organizers, not to mention the very people of Bahrain!

Anyone else think Bernie is an absolute t*at for causing this major discrepancy in the calendar? And he has the cheek to say "It's not about the money..." UP yours Bernie!!!

[bud]

Bahrain won't go ahead!

[McLaren]

Bahrain won't go ahead!

correct

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 694628.stm

[What's Burning?]

Wonder which of the 12 teams was the sole yes vote.