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Hamilton, innocent in Monaco, really? Getting his front wing inside the rear wheels of another car does not constitute making a pass; Massa and Maldonado had every right to turn in!
Hamilton, innocent in Monaco, really? Getting his front wing inside the rear wheels of another car does not constitute making a pass; Massa and Maldonado had every right to turn in!damn straight. the rules are the rules however much we don't like them and what he did both times were avoidable accidents and these are not permitted. it's that simple
Hamilton, innocent in Monaco, really? Getting his front wing inside the rear wheels of another car does not constitute making a pass; Massa and Maldonado had every right to turn in!
yeah really, if you dont agree we can re-read the last 40 pages at this point but on reviewing i really dont. Not at all. Only the black comment warranted a wrist slap.
Hamilton, innocent in Monaco, really? Getting his front wing inside the rear wheels of another car does not constitute making a pass; Massa and Maldonado had every right to turn in!
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
ok, so can we lock this now?
!!!I truely feel bad for Hamilton, i sat with some buddies and we watched slow motions of incidents in which he was involved, and it is 100% obvious that he is not to blame for the Maldonado incident, Maldonado should be punished for it, maybe the massa incident is partly, hamilton's fault.
Further more there is a sense of growing feeling that folks at f1 don't want Hamilton to win the championship, Even folks in his own team don't want to him win!!
If you check out the last minutes of the previous race in spain you'll see that they were calling Hamiltion from the box while he was sitting on vettel's tail, and everytime they called him he lost 0.2-0.3 tenths of a second, in all it was done 4 times (over 1 second lost), it was just un-accounted for, and this happend when the race was about to come to an end, i know it might sound like some kind of conspiracy theory but these facts + facts that were mentioned by hamilton himself, I am talking about his accusations against Torro Rosso just lead to unpleaseing conclusions, actually there is more and i have noticed other incidents in which hamilton got a "raw deal" in previous races, it's like many folks out there in the f1 are set up to help vettel win another championship, I don't know if it is a racial issue, or the germans just want to feel/show that they are better than evreyone else, maybe it's all about money and politics, but i just wish hamilton take better care of himself and becareful, i am sure that after his latest comment some folks in the f1 are going to be kind of pissed off and hamilton might have to go through a tough period.
p.s. i am not a hamilton or McLaren fan, but i do think that vettel is over-rated, he is driving a supirior car (legal or not) and is being assisted by various parties.
I am not trying to cause a provocation toward vettel's fans, this is just my opinion and i'm just putting in my two cents.
Since this is the topic that won't die, I've merged it here to the Monaco thread since, what more can be said that hasn't been said in 50 pages? We'll find out. Enjoy. WB
Ive actually made a total U-turn from what i first thought, having just watched the incidents over again.
Massa did turn in too early. Maldonado did turn into Hamilton. His comments were what we long for in drivers, and now hes being charged over them.
Forget everything ive said about Hamilton he was totally innocent that race, and the fact he finished higher then he started is almost justice served for such idiot decisions. The only thing about his interview was the black thing, shouldnt of done that.
Hey who is this 'Lewis' person everyone speak's about ??
He was slated for options on his first stop but the RBR drivers had "talked over" each other on the radio so the pit crew failed to receive notice Vettel was inbound. Rather than waste more time sorting out the tyre selection, they simply slapped on the primes they had readied for Webber.
I stand corrected. I reviewed the video and I was mistaken. I thought I remembered seeing a red lettered tyre when Vettel was in the pits but it's during Webber's stop that the options are visible. Their stops were so close, I'd thought I was seeing a replay of Vettel's stop when it actually was Webber's.
Which means RBR were gambling they could get 60 laps out of a set of primes. That's beyond audacious, that's positively foolhardy.
James Allen quotes Chris Horner to say the options were put on Vettel's car by mistake. I have not seen that quote reported elsewhere but he normally is pretty reliable.
Will Buxton reported that the RBR pit crew were all at sixes and sevens as soon as Webber had got out of the box. Well-oiled machine that they are, this would also seem to indicate something during the stop had gone awry (apart from Webber's slow stop).
This is a fascinating conversation I'm having with myself. Shame no one is listening.
Doesn't that seem to be the case for a lot of dominant teams in any sport, that even luck seems to go their way? So Red Bull must have hired a fortunenomisist over the off season because that's what's really transformed them from last year to this year.
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