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He was slated for options on his first stop but the RBR drivers had "talked over" each other on the radio so the pit crew failed to receive notice Vettel was inbound. Rather than waste more time sorting out the tyre selection, they simply slapped on the primes they had readied for Webber.
From the video, Webber took a tighter line in than Massa.
Are you sure?
Can't believe someone can give some much credence to the FIA. They were never prepared for the Hammy type so now they're fumbling on what to do with his talents and skills. Give it em Hammy!!!! Never back down!
He was slated for options on his first stop but the RBR drivers had "talked over" each other on the radio so the pit crew failed to receive notice Vettel was inbound. Rather than waste more time sorting out the tyre selection, they simply slapped on the primes they had readied for Webber.
I stand corrected. I reviewed the video and I was mistaken. I thought I remembered seeing a red lettered tyre when Vettel was in the pits but it's during Webber's stop that the options are visible. Their stops were so close, I'd thought I was seeing a replay of Vettel's stop when it actually was Webber's.
Which means RBR were gambling they could get 60 laps out of a set of primes. That's beyond audacious, that's positively foolhardy.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. 
That is precisely my point, look at how Lewis's car is angled compared to Massa, Massa's turning in to make the corner, Lewis was going almost straight. I'd even warrant knocking into Massa saved Lewis there, there was no way Lewis would have made that corner short of virtually stopping.
He was slated for options on his first stop but the RBR drivers had "talked over" each other on the radio so the pit crew failed to receive notice Vettel was inbound. Rather than waste more time sorting out the tyre selection, they simply slapped on the primes they had readied for Webber.
I stand corrected. I reviewed the video and I was mistaken. I thought I remembered seeing a red lettered tyre when Vettel was in the pits but it's during Webber's stop that the options are visible. Their stops were so close, I'd thought I was seeing a replay of Vettel's stop when it actually was Webber's.
Which means RBR were gambling they could get 60 laps out of a set of primes. That's beyond audacious, that's positively foolhardy.
They did give SV the wrong tires (prime instead of the planned options) and SV lost some valuable time in the process. Thus, the team changed their strategy on the fly from 2 to 1 stops. And SV executed that strategy call in a very mature manner.
They did give SV the wrong tires (prime instead of the planned options) and SV lost some valuable time in the process. Thus, the team changed their strategy on the fly from 2 to 1 stops. And SV executed that strategy call in a very mature manner.
He was slated for options on his first stop but the RBR drivers had "talked over" each other on the radio so the pit crew failed to receive notice Vettel was inbound. Rather than waste more time sorting out the tyre selection, they simply slapped on the primes they had readied for Webber.
I stand corrected. I reviewed the video and I was mistaken. I thought I remembered seeing a red lettered tyre when Vettel was in the pits but it's during Webber's stop that the options are visible. Their stops were so close, I'd thought I was seeing a replay of Vettel's stop when it actually was Webber's.
Which means RBR were gambling they could get 60 laps out of a set of primes. That's beyond audacious, that's positively foolhardy.
They did give SV the wrong tires (prime instead of the planned options) and SV lost some valuable time in the process. Thus, the team changed their strategy on the fly from 2 to 1 stops. And SV executed that strategy call in a very mature manner.
for the sake of argument, if Seb did get a set of Mark's tires, is that legal?
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. He was slated for options on his first stop but the RBR drivers had "talked over" each other on the radio so the pit crew failed to receive notice Vettel was inbound. Rather than waste more time sorting out the tyre selection, they simply slapped on the primes they had readied for Webber.
I stand corrected. I reviewed the video and I was mistaken. I thought I remembered seeing a red lettered tyre when Vettel was in the pits but it's during Webber's stop that the options are visible. Their stops were so close, I'd thought I was seeing a replay of Vettel's stop when it actually was Webber's.
Which means RBR were gambling they could get 60 laps out of a set of primes. That's beyond audacious, that's positively foolhardy.
They did give SV the wrong tires (prime instead of the planned options) and SV lost some valuable time in the process. Thus, the team changed their strategy on the fly from 2 to 1 stops. And SV executed that strategy call in a very mature manner.
That is precisely my point, look at how Lewis's car is angled compared to Massa, Massa's turning in to make the corner, Lewis was going almost straight. I'd even warrant knocking into Massa saved Lewis there, there was no way Lewis would have made that corner short of virtually stopping.
And yet he was going at a slow enough speed when he hit Massa to do no damage? pretty sure he was virtually stopped at that point :p.
If Massa had taken Webbers line Hamilton would have been alongside him or ahead of him at the apex of the corner and Massa could have quite easily driven around Hamilton and probably maintained his position, instead he decided to block Lewis effectively giving him no choice but to either go into the wall or into Massa.
I am glad some people see it and not everyone is blinded by whatever is stopping them from actually watching the incident properly.
It doesn't really matter i guess though as the FIA support most peoples views that the defending driver can do no wrong and the attacking driver needs to literally pass through solid objects at times to overtake or they are at fault.
They did give SV the wrong tires (prime instead of the planned options) and SV lost some valuable time in the process. Thus, the team changed their strategy on the fly from 2 to 1 stops. And SV executed that strategy call in a very mature manner.
And he got amazingly lucky that everything that could possibly go in his favour did, turning a failed pitstop and botched strategy that was relying more on luck than anything else into a win.
Le coeur a ses raisons que la raison ne connaît point. They did give SV the wrong tires (prime instead of the planned options) and SV lost some valuable time in the process. Thus, the team changed their strategy on the fly from 2 to 1 stops. And SV executed that strategy call in a very mature manner.
And he got amazingly lucky that everything that could possibly go in his favour did, turning a failed pitstop and botched strategy that was relying more on luck than anything else into a win.
You fail to realize in your analysis that SV as the runaway points leader does not necessarily need to win a race anymore. The worst he could do was stop a second time towards the end of the race if he got passed by FA and possibly JB and he would still end up third and add 15 points. So, that strategy call has to be viewed in that context as well. Under the circumstances, he drove an amazing race and got 57 laps out of a set of prime tires when the common wisdom is that they last only 30-35 laps.
...Lewis was alongside Massa as Massa was going into the corner. It was Lewis's responsibility to anticipate Massa closing the space.
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