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[FerrariFan63]

As on Autosport.

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Pirelli director of motorsport Paul Hembery thinks that the freedom to change tyres robbed fans of an entertaining finish to the race – and believes the rules should be tweaked to prevent teams from switching rubber if there is a late red flag and restart.

"I can understand there is a safety consideration but I am thinking about it more from a fans' perspective to be honest," Hembery told AUTOSPORT.

I'm not sure I agree. If you have a red flag, it's because something pretty serious has happened. And, I don't think I'd want to see anything happens that sends cars out on less than the safest tyres. Red flags are quite rare, and it's unlikely that the rule will help us that much.

[What's Burning?]

Pirelli really screwed the pooch in Monaco and they're looking for a scapegoat.

[FerrariFan63]

Pirelli really screwed the pooch in Monaco and they're looking for a scapegoat.

Yes, that's a good summary of the situation

[Bubbie]

Another reason to change tires under Red is for safety. The cars may have picked up punctures from carbon fiber laying around the track, also if they need to go offline to get around a wreck then they will have picked up some marbles (although this can be handled with the warm-up lap behind the safety car).

Pirelli messed up this race (but that is because the track is so unique), but every other race they have been pretty good (although I would like to see the harder compound have a bit more performance so that they are at least an option for teams to use instead of a "get off them as quickly as possible" tire).

[texasmr2]

So now the blame is put on Pirelli's shoulders ! This was the first ever race to ever be restarted after a red flag in modern era F1 so how about we all look into the FIA's inconsistancy with the rule?

[Yoruba]

As on Autosport.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91893" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pirelli director of motorsport Paul Hembery thinks that the freedom to change tyres robbed fans of an entertaining finish to the race – and believes the rules should be tweaked to prevent teams from switching rubber if there is a late red flag and restart.

"I can understand there is a safety consideration but I am thinking about it more from a fans' perspective to be honest," Hembery told AUTOSPORT.

I'm not sure I agree. If you have a red flag, it's because something pretty serious has happened. And, I don't think I'd want to see anything happens that sends cars out on less than the safest tyres. Red flags are quite rare, and it's unlikely that the rule will help us that much.

The red flag had nothing to do with tyres specifically; there was an accident. I don't agree with tire changes in the middle of a stopped race. It looked ridiculous seeing all those engineers running down pit lane trying to get to their respctive cars. That decision essentially sealed the top 3 positions in the race.

[acosmichippo]

I agree. If you have punctured tires, you should have to pit to change them like any other time during the race. Same goes for fixing anything else on your car (I.e Lewis' rear wing).

And I don't see how Pirellis screwed up Monaco. Tire strategy was leading up to a riveting finish before the crash.

[FerrariFan63]

The red flag had nothing to do with tyres specifically; there was an accident. I don't agree with tire changes in the middle of a stopped race. It looked ridiculous seeing all those engineers running down pit lane trying to get to their respctive cars. That decision essentially sealed the top 3 positions in the race.

I think Bubbles' comments strike the nail on the head. The tyres may have picked up all sorts of sh*t after a major accident. Best to change them to be sure, and to let teams replace rear wings and anything else that's damaged.

[Bulletproof]

I totally disagree with the sentiment that they should be allowed to change tyres or anything else for that matter after a red flag. If they think the car is unsafe then they should pull it from the restart, simple, and if they feel the tyres are worn they should come in to pit as soon as possible after the race is restarted. For drivers and teams to gain an advantage from a red flag situation is unfair.

If the race was running in normal mode none of those advantages would be available.

[stonemonkey]

I totally disagree with the sentiment that they should be allowed to change tyres or anything else for that matter after a red flag. If they think the car is unsafe then they should pull it from the restart, simple, and if they feel the tyres are worn they should come in to pit as soon as possible after the race is restarted. For drivers and teams to gain an advantage from a red flag situation is unfair.

If the race was running in normal mode none of those advantages would be available.

If 2nd place is running 20 secs behind then he'd gain an advantage from a restart. I'd prefer to see any cars needing work done or tyres changed having to do the restart from the pitlane.

[darwin dali]

I totally disagree with the sentiment that they should be allowed to change tyres or anything else for that matter after a red flag. If they think the car is unsafe then they should pull it from the restart, simple, and if they feel the tyres are worn they should come in to pit as soon as possible after the race is restarted. For drivers and teams to gain an advantage from a red flag situation is unfair.

If the race was running in normal mode none of those advantages would be available.

You're forgetting that if the race was running in 'normal mode' and there was no red flag, there also wouldn't have been an accident that left the track littered with shards. To restart with potentially punctured tires is madness and could cause disaster.

[Bulletproof]

I totally disagree with the sentiment that they should be allowed to change tyres or anything else for that matter after a red flag. If they think the car is unsafe then they should pull it from the restart, simple, and if they feel the tyres are worn they should come in to pit as soon as possible after the race is restarted. For drivers and teams to gain an advantage from a red flag situation is unfair.

If the race was running in normal mode none of those advantages would be available.

If 2nd place is running 20 secs behind then he'd gain an advantage from a restart. I'd prefer to see any cars needing work done or tyres changed having to do the restart from the pitlane.

Yes that's a good compromise, and to Darwin, if they have a puncture it will be blatantly obvious so a withdrawal or restart from pit lane is the only option. Remember if they had received a puncture from an incident and there was no red flag they would have to pit and lose there position.

[darwin dali]

I totally disagree with the sentiment that they should be allowed to change tyres or anything else for that matter after a red flag. If they think the car is unsafe then they should pull it from the restart, simple, and if they feel the tyres are worn they should come in to pit as soon as possible after the race is restarted. For drivers and teams to gain an advantage from a red flag situation is unfair.

If the race was running in normal mode none of those advantages would be available.

If 2nd place is running 20 secs behind then he'd gain an advantage from a restart. I'd prefer to see any cars needing work done or tyres changed having to do the restart from the pitlane.

Yes that's a good compromise, and to Darwin, if they have a puncture it will be blatantly obvious so a withdrawal or restart from pit lane is the only option. Remember if they had received a puncture from an incident and there was no red flag they would have to pit and lose there position.

Red flags are rarely put out - it has to be a major incident, which means an increased risks as well of debris, etc. Let's say the 3 leading drivers SV, FA, and JB all had tire problems because the accident happened just in front of them and they had no way to avoid debris. So, all three will lose the race and some lucky bar stewards from 4th place wins because the front drivers are not allowed to change tires?

[acosmichippo]

I'm thinking that if you change tires or anything on your car during a red flag, you should receive an automatic drive-through after the resumption to somewhat simulate a pit stop.

[Bulletproof]

I totally disagree with the sentiment that they should be allowed to change tyres or anything else for that matter after a red flag. If they think the car is unsafe then they should pull it from the restart, simple, and if they feel the tyres are worn they should come in to pit as soon as possible after the race is restarted. For drivers and teams to gain an advantage from a red flag situation is unfair.

If the race was running in normal mode none of those advantages would be available.

If 2nd place is running 20 secs behind then he'd gain an advantage from a restart. I'd prefer to see any cars needing work done or tyres changed having to do the restart from the pitlane.

Yes that's a good compromise, and to Darwin, if they have a puncture it will be blatantly obvious so a withdrawal or restart from pit lane is the only option. Remember if they had received a puncture from an incident and there was no red flag they would have to pit and lose there position.

Red flags are rarely put out - it has to be a major incident, which means an increased risks as well of debris, etc. Let's say the 3 leading drivers SV, FA, and JB all had tire problems because the accident happened just in front of them and they had no way to avoid debris. So, all three will lose the race and some lucky bar stewards from 4th place wins because the front drivers are not allowed to change tires?

There certainly is a debate to be had Darwin, and you can look at things from many perspectives, but i still think tyre changes should be prohibited at red flag/restart.
But as you say these are rare scenarios, so it'll probably a fair while till we see such a situation again.