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[Yoruba]

To people that doubt how it's done look no further than..............
Shumi vs Lewis
Lewis vs Shumi

Massa would rather die than be passed. And true racing is dead,thus we have DRS and KERS so overtaking is a formality and people that actually know how are punished.

Really..why is this post so hard to understand. Its ridiculous how so many are blaming Lewis for the Massa incident. There's a perfect case study as to how its done when Michael took Lewis on the FIRST LAP. Go back and see how its done between overtaker and the 'overtaken'.

Admit it, the interview has got people riled up and they aren't looking at on track incidents objectively anymore. The car being overtaken should also have some responsibility to, lets see, NOT cause a collision. Massa was a noob, and got his just rewards in the tunnel.

You're right about one thing...they way both LH and MS gave each other 'respect' when being overtaken and vice versa. Only difference here is neither Maldonado nor Massa have ever been WDC nor probable ever will; i guess that explains it.

[CarBore]

To people that doubt how it's done look no further than..............
Shumi vs Lewis
Lewis vs Shumi

Massa would rather die than be passed. And true racing is dead,thus we have DRS and KERS so overtaking is a formality and people that actually know how are punished.

Really..why is this post so hard to understand. Its ridiculous how so many are blaming Lewis for the Massa incident. There's a perfect case study as to how its done when Michael took Lewis on the FIRST LAP. Go back and see how its done between overtaker and the 'overtaken'.

Admit it, the interview has got people riled up and they aren't looking at on track incidents objectively anymore. The car being overtaken should also have some responsibility to, lets see, NOT cause a collision. Massa was a noob, and got his just rewards in the tunnel.

You're right about one thing...they way both LH and MS gave each other 'respect' when being overtaken and vice versa. Only difference here is neither Maldonado nor Massa have ever been WDC nor probable ever will; i guess that explains it.

Maldonado got mugged. It's not reasonable for him to think he'd need to give up a position the way Hamilton tried to pass him

[Big Azza]

I cannot believe I have managed to read through 38 pages of posts! Very proud of myself.

Last year this forum was ranting and raving about Vettel and his... erm... over-exuberant driving style. How can Hamilton be defended for his actions both during and after this race?

I was shocked to see Hamilton making contact with Massa BEFORE even turning into that corner, and then apparently proceeding to drive Massa into the wall. How can you say Massa drove into you in that situation?

Hamilton could perhaps be accused of breaking too heavily and subsequently affecting Algeursuari's and Petrov's race.

And his move on Maldonado was absolutely diabolical!

However, I had nothing but ADMIRATION for Hamilton on his overtake of Massa in the tunnel. I have never seen such bravery in my life. He forced Massa into that mistake. (Although perhaps Massa didn't want to get in his way again after what happened a few corners before.)

There were times when Hamilton was absolutely breathtaking, like with his pass on Schumacher, but also times when he was clumsy.

Vettel was not lucky. He obviously changed his strategy to a one-stopper in light of the team's botched pit stop. It was a fantastic call. And to see him hold off Alonso for several laps - every time he went round I was telling my younger brother that if Vettel made this stick, he would have to be acknowledged as the greatest driver out there.

You could see quite clearly he was using the same defensive driving style in Catalunya that Johnny Herbert was raving about. Every time he'd come out of the final corner, he'd ensure that he'd have just enough of a gap to hold off Alonso into the first corner, who had DRS. It was fantastic just watching how Vettel would construct his laps, when Alonso and Button were quite clearly faster than him. He was successfully managing his KERS (which he didn't have in Spain).

So far this year Vettel has been a complete driver. He has won races on skill, and qualified well. But he has also picked up the pieces and made use of some unfortunate circumstances at times (aka luck). He has fended off some cars that were a lot faster than him. He can control the pace of the race, and make awesome strategy calls (China show's him and his team ARE human). You're watching the most talented driver out there. This will be championship number 2 out of 5, maybe 10 in total throughout his career?

This also puts all the Vettel-favouritism claims last year to bed.

Also when you compare Algeursuari's weekend with Ricciardo's, you can see that the Australian will be getting a race seat soon.

[CarBore]

Also when you compare Algeursuari's weekend with Ricciardo's, you can see that the Australian will be getting a race seat soon.

More like his whole season...

[Frontrunner]

Yeah i'm starting to wonder if STR are starting to consider throwing Ricciardo into a race during this season. I think it is best for Ricciardo to start fresh in 2012 rather than get thrown into the mix mid season. But I think Algey should be given more time to show his worth. If then Algey keeps getting blown away by his teamate then STR can start thinking of making changes.

[IceManpjn]

[Big Azza]

Something else has come to my mind. A lot of people are saying that Vettel didn't deserve to win because he changed his tires. But guess what?
EVERYBODY CHANGED THEIR TIRES!

[The_Stig_Money]

This was the greatest gp I have ever seen! The " new " f1 is working!

So much happened during the race my mind is still processing it ( and the SoCo )

The best part was vettel spraying the royal guard

[F1er]

Wonderful viewing by Hamilton He was kicking but all over the track! Sure it was ugly but hey sixth place and still 2nd in the WDC!

I think he is the star of the race - great overtakes, nice running people off the road (which I love), tense moments in the pits and putting the car back together... F1 just doesn't get any better than that. Great TV watching.

And oh the interview was GOLDEN! lovely

Guys who are not Hamilton fans, you just don't know what you are missing!

Really praising someone for running others of the track?

Lewis has made some fine overtaking moves in the past but Monaco certainly wasn't his finest hour

Have you by any chance complained about Kamui taking Suttil to the cleaners while the latter was running 4th? If not, then stop acting all righteous. Schumacher and Senna made their living taking people out!

You wanna guess who the 2 most talked about drivers are?

[F1er]

To people that doubt how it's done look no further than..............
Shumi vs Lewis
Lewis vs Shumi

Massa would rather die than be passed. And true racing is dead,thus we have DRS and KERS so overtaking is a formality and people that actually know how are punished.

Knowing how means not colliding with those you are passing...as the damage may well be your car instead of theirs. Want to see how it's not done, watch Vettel on Webber last year or Lewis on Massa this morning.

Massa doesn't even belong in GP2 so it's not really worth discussing.Lewis could have shut the door on Schumi as he could have done on Lewis later but neither did,so that's how is done.Schumacher did it again to Rosberg with Nico giving space and don't tell me they're teammates because so were Seb and Mark last year.
Lewis is the fairest driver when being passed,I guess he thinks the same of others.Well know he knows.

[carmonwebber]

This was the greatest gp I have ever seen! The " new " f1 is working!

So much happened during the race my mind is still processing it ( and the SoCo )

The best part was vettel spraying the royal guard

Lol...barely flinched too!

Eventful race - one I thought was one of better wins SV has had this season in terms of strategy and how things panned out during the race for him. I do wonder what Alonso would have tried to pull in the final laps to take the lead if the final safety car didn't happen. The top 3 almost got cleaned up by the Petrov/Algs incident too.

Angry race for Lewis....the frustration probably started after Q3. His pass on Schumacher was great to watch, though he killed his own credibility as the race went on. He's not happy about the penalties he copped - I'm assuming his rear-wing change was legit also?!

[acosmichippo]

Didn't read the whole thread, but I find it ironic that Lewis is getting ripped apart by certain forum members for wearing his feelings on his sleeve and overly hyperbolizing.

Pot, meet kettle.

[Hammer278]

Didn't read the whole thread, but I find it ironic that Lewis is getting ripped apart by certain forum members for wearing his feelings on his sleeve and overly hyperbolizing.

Pot, meet kettle.

Its the usual haters, whats new. Oh and Fraffy, but he has a love/hate rship with those he supports for some strange reason.

[Hammer278]

To people that doubt how it's done look no further than..............
Shumi vs Lewis
Lewis vs Shumi

Massa would rather die than be passed. And true racing is dead,thus we have DRS and KERS so overtaking is a formality and people that actually know how are punished.

Knowing how means not colliding with those you are passing...as the damage may well be your car instead of theirs. Want to see how it's not done, watch Vettel on Webber last year or Lewis on Massa this morning.

Massa doesn't even belong in GP2 so it's not really worth discussing.Lewis could have shut the door on Schumi as he could have done on Lewis later but neither did,so that's how is done.Schumacher did it again to Rosberg with Nico giving space and don't tell me they're teammates because so were Seb and Mark last year.
Lewis is the fairest driver when being passed,I guess he thinks the same of others.Well know he knows.

Nail on the head. Unfortunately, his racing is just a bit too hardcore for simpletons like Massa to keep up. Michael showed how its done (overtake/overtaken), that's an experienced old man who knows how to race hard.

For the haters, riddle me this - Shanghai...when Lewis was overtaking Jenson at the first corner, if Jenson had simply closed the door on him and they collided. Would that make Lewis reckless? Or Jenson an idiot? Much faster corner, but the same principle.

[nish2280]

Just wondering. If this was not hamilton's fault then what about in Singapore against webber? Hamilton was on the outside and turned in on Webber. Are the same people defending Hamilton that accused Webber of being dirty in Singapore?