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#256693
DRS unlimited usage is a lousy idea. Are you guys saying the chasing car and the car in front are able to use it? Then whats the use of DRS anyway....it doesn't make sense.

And if the chasing car is able to use it throughout, it just makes overtaking even more easier and artificial. What we have today is working well, why change it? People said its going to be too easy, well it isn't. Yes, it makes racing slightly artificial, but its the price to pay for progress (aero efficiency). If it's not broken, don't bother fixing it.


In monaco I don't think it is lousy, I think it would be extremely risky and if those who get greedy can't handle it, boom, barrier.


I agree...so why unlimited usage? Ban DRS in Monaco, its the most sensible thing to do.
#256796
i think that having two drs zones from now on, could work in theory, but then some fans will start moaning that its too easy.....and you have too much and its not pure and so on, but then what would everyone rather have?, lots of overtaking or no overtaking?


So you're saying that DRS is the sole cause for all the overtaking this year?

Disagree. With these Pirellis, DRS is completely unnecessary. KERS too. If they were eliminated, there would still be plenty of overtakes.
#256918
i think that having two drs zones from now on, could work in theory, but then some fans will start moaning that its too easy.....and you have too much and its not pure and so on, but then what would everyone rather have?, lots of overtaking or no overtaking?


So you're saying that DRS is the sole cause for all the overtaking this year?

Disagree. With these Pirellis, DRS is completely unnecessary. KERS too. If they were eliminated, there would still be plenty of overtakes.


well no of course as we seen in barcelona, the drs didnt have that much effect...but with the pirelli's and the drs and kers, it all has an effect
#257093
i think that having two drs zones from now on, could work in theory, but then some fans will start moaning that its too easy.....and you have too much and its not pure and so on, but then what would everyone rather have?, lots of overtaking or no overtaking?


So you're saying that DRS is the sole cause for all the overtaking this year?

Disagree. With these Pirellis, DRS is completely unnecessary. KERS too. If they were eliminated, there would still be plenty of overtakes.


Disagree. We have clearly seen on tracks with decent overtaking opportunities that DRS is a massive aid for overtaking. How was that not obvious? Just because Barcelona is a god-awful circuit for racing doesn't mean DRS doesn't work!! I knew all it would take is one ineffective DRS zone and people would condemn it forevermore! :banghead:

Yes, the Pirellis have also aided the spectacle, but DRS has also done its bit. The two of them COMBINED have created some great racing this year. 8-)
#257158
DRS unlimited usage is a lousy idea. Are you guys saying the chasing car and the car in front are able to use it? Then whats the use of DRS anyway....it doesn't make sense. And if the chasing car is able to use it throughout, it just makes overtaking even more easier and artificial. What we have today is working well, why change it? People said its going to be too easy, well it isn't. Yes, it makes racing slightly artificial, but its the price to pay for progress (aero efficiency). If it's not broken, don't bother fixing it.


Riddle me this riddle me that "Why make such a drastic change towards aero when it is limited to it's usage :confused: ?" Last time I checked there was alot of hoopla about F1 drivers being the BEST IN THE WORLD and unlimited use of DRS would be a step forward not a step back.
#257165
i think that having two drs zones from now on, could work in theory, but then some fans will start moaning that its too easy.....and you have too much and its not pure and so on, but then what would everyone rather have?, lots of overtaking or no overtaking?


So you're saying that DRS is the sole cause for all the overtaking this year?

Disagree. With these Pirellis, DRS is completely unnecessary. KERS too. If they were eliminated, there would still be plenty of overtakes.


Disagree. We have clearly seen on tracks with decent overtaking opportunities that DRS is a massive aid for overtaking. How was that not obvious? Just because Barcelona is a god-awful circuit for racing doesn't mean DRS doesn't work!! I knew all it would take is one ineffective DRS zone and people would condemn it forevermore! :banghead:

Yes, the Pirellis have also aided the spectacle, but DRS has also done its bit. The two of them COMBINED have created some great racing this year. 8-)


where did I say DRS doesn't work? I said it was unnecessary. I've been saying this since way before Barcelona.
#257173
DRS unlimited usage is a lousy idea. Are you guys saying the chasing car and the car in front are able to use it? Then whats the use of DRS anyway....it doesn't make sense. And if the chasing car is able to use it throughout, it just makes overtaking even more easier and artificial. What we have today is working well, why change it? People said its going to be too easy, well it isn't. Yes, it makes racing slightly artificial, but its the price to pay for progress (aero efficiency). If it's not broken, don't bother fixing it.


Riddle me this riddle me that "Why make such a drastic change towards aero when it is limited to it's usage :confused: ?" Last time I checked there was alot of hoopla about F1 drivers being the BEST IN THE WORLD and unlimited use of DRS would be a step forward not a step back.


Unlimited DRS would not be very useful from the spectacle area of the discussion. The drivers would all be opening their DRS at the same time and therefore negating it's usefulness. Kinda like what they are worried will happen with KERS where everyone will start using it at the same portions of the racetrack and therefore any advantage through having it is washed out.

The statements that the new tires are really what is making Sundays exciting is spot on. Most of the exciting drives have been people coming out on fresh tires and absolutely mauling the folks on older tires (a'la Button and Vettel in the last race).

Regarding 2 DRS zones, I don't think it is a good idea, but will wait and see. Right now, a driver has a full lap to try and extend out of the 1 second gap to avoid the DRS being used on them. I don't want to see two people continually swapping places in the DRS zones.
#257174
DRS unlimited usage is a lousy idea. Are you guys saying the chasing car and the car in front are able to use it? Then whats the use of DRS anyway....it doesn't make sense. And if the chasing car is able to use it throughout, it just makes overtaking even more easier and artificial. What we have today is working well, why change it? People said its going to be too easy, well it isn't. Yes, it makes racing slightly artificial, but its the price to pay for progress (aero efficiency). If it's not broken, don't bother fixing it.


Riddle me this riddle me that "Why make such a drastic change towards aero when it is limited to it's usage :confused: ?" Last time I checked there was alot of hoopla about F1 drivers being the BEST IN THE WORLD and unlimited use of DRS would be a step forward not a step back.


But the idea of the DRS was to overtake, you cant overtake another DRS user?
#257180
DRS unlimited usage is a lousy idea. Are you guys saying the chasing car and the car in front are able to use it? Then whats the use of DRS anyway....it doesn't make sense. And if the chasing car is able to use it throughout, it just makes overtaking even more easier and artificial. What we have today is working well, why change it? People said its going to be too easy, well it isn't. Yes, it makes racing slightly artificial, but its the price to pay for progress (aero efficiency). If it's not broken, don't bother fixing it.


Riddle me this riddle me that "Why make such a drastic change towards aero when it is limited to it's usage :confused: ?" Last time I checked there was alot of hoopla about F1 drivers being the BEST IN THE WORLD and unlimited use of DRS would be a step forward not a step back.


But the idea of the DRS was to overtake, you cant overtake another DRS user?


FRAFPDD is correct. DRS works because it is activated when a car is within a second behind another car. We've seen in some parts of the races when cars have been so close together, that a whole line of cars (except the one infront) all have their DRS open. So they cancel each other out. DRS works when the car behind has it open, and the one infront doesn't. Unlimited use of the DRS would suggest that any driver can open it anywhere, and it would thus be rendered useless.
#257304
DRS & KERS is a waste of time, full stop; all it does it hasten the degradation of the tyres as it's likely to cause drivers to lock up into corners flat-spotting the tyres, which is the core reason we are seeing more overtaking, the tyre performance drops off a cliff meaning that suddenly a driver can be in the lead and a few laps later he will be back in 4th/5th if the cars are running close together.
#257438
DRS & KERS is a waste of time, full stop; all it does it hasten the degradation of the tyres as it's likely to cause drivers to lock up into corners flat-spotting the tyres, which is the core reason we are seeing more overtaking, the tyre performance drops off a cliff meaning that suddenly a driver can be in the lead and a few laps later he will be back in 4th/5th if the cars are running close together.


your a purist ey :wink:

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