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#255062
Michael Schumacher is looking likely to be retiring again at the end of the season; he has ruined his legacy I believe; people will remember him for his failures in 2010/11 now!

Michael Schumacher has admitted for the first time that he is not enjoying racing following a disappointing start to the second season of his comeback.

The 42-year-old Mercedes driver finished 12th in the Turkish Grand Prix after another poor weekend.

Schumacher told BBC Sport: "The big joy is not there right now."

He won a record seven titles and 91 grands prix before retiring in 2006 but has been bettered by Nico Rosberg in 15 of their 23 races as team-mates.

Rosberg, 25, has also out-qualified his fellow German on 19 occasions.

Rosberg qualified third in Turkey, more than a second faster than Schumacher, who was eighth on the grid.

Schumacher was not helped by an opening-lap collision with Renault's Vitaly Petrov, for which he admitted he was at fault. The incident forced him into the pits for a new front wing.

Schumacher made three further stops for fresh tyres but never looked capable of getting close to the front-runners.

The result - allied to a retirement in Australia, a ninth-place finish in Malaysia and eighth in China - means he sits 11th in the drivers' championship with only six points.

Rosberg finds himself 10th on 20 points, while Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel leads the way on 93 points following his victory in Turkey.

"I told you before the race there was going to be some action and indeed I had lots of action," said Schumacher.

"I guess I was responsible myself to have the result that I had. With Petrov I guess it was mostly my mistake what happened there.

"I need to analyse it. It was a bit strange that suddenly we got together and I lost my front wing. The race was a given from there - lots of fighting, lots of action, but for nothing.

"From where we came [on the grid], going forward is better than still having to defend backwards and mostly I was able to go forward."

Schumacher signed a three-year contract with Mercedes when he returned to F1 last year but BBC F1 chief analyst Eddie Jordan said it might be time for him to consider his future.

"I felt just a glimmer of sadness that here's a legendary person, who has been magnificent in all the years that he's raced, winning seven world championships," Jordan said.

"He's very human, he's very, very honest - he's clearly not enjoying it and the results are showing why he's not enjoying it. He has a couple of big decisions to make in the next couple of months."

But BBC F1 co-commentator David Coulthard cautioned against jumping to conclusions.

"He's not performing at the same level of his team-mate, that's a fact," stated the former Williams, McLaren and Red Bull driver, who raced against Schumacher for 12 years.

"The statistics show Nico Rosberg is getting more out of that car than Michael Schumacher.

"I don't think we should write Michael off by any stretch of the imagination - there's a lot of talent there - but he must be asking himself questions.

"I think the key thing is he's not enjoying it and to be perfectly open and honest with you there was an element of that for me at the beginning of 2008.

"I wasn't as competitive as I felt I should be, I wasn't enjoying the races as much as I used to and then that's the moment.

"It slowly builds until you look in the mirror and realise that feeling you've been having for a few weeks or months is the internal message. You can't hold back the clock."

SRC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/formula ... 328830.stm
#255073
I don't think his legacy is ruined... his record, his statistics tarnished? Perhaps. But his legacy is far from reproach because of this. I've been saying since it was clear at the beginning of last year that Mercedes had a bad car, that they'd give him till the middle of this year. He is out of his element, for whatever the reason, but there is no denying that being soundly thrashed by Rosberg is what's contributing to his "no fun". Otherwise it would simply be the car's fault.
#255074
I say his legacy is ruined because he was known as a winner because he spent most of his time out front, never really had to battle too much in the midfield; now he is mired in the midfield he is struggling; being embarrassed by his team mate, which is my eyes means that he isn't as good a driver as his record suggests; he needed to have one of the best cars to win as much as he did!
#255078
I say his legacy is ruined because he was known as a winner because he spent most of his time out front, never really had to battle too much in the midfield; now he is mired in the midfield he is struggling; being embarrassed by his team mate, which is my eyes means that he isn't as good a driver as his record suggests; he needed to have one of the best cars to win as much as he did!


Look at the flip side, there's a lot more fans than can now say they've seen him drive, but anyone that knows the sport will know his achievements, this will not affect that.
#255081
I say his legacy is ruined because he was known as a winner because he spent most of his time out front, never really had to battle too much in the midfield; now he is mired in the midfield he is struggling; being embarrassed by his team mate, which is my eyes means that he isn't as good a driver as his record suggests; he needed to have one of the best cars to win as much as he did!


That was proven in 05
#255083
Well Michael dominated Rubens who wasn't allowed to race him,Jenson dominated Rubens who was allowed to race him. And Nico is making him look like a Bus driver,so yeah a lot of fans are doubting his supreme driving skills and those magical powers of his on developing cars.

So a lot of "myths" are coming to light.
#255084
Legacy ruined :rofl::rofl::rolleyes: !!

You may roll your eyes; but look at it this way; you've just started watching F1 in the last two or three years and you hear about Michael Schumacher's seven world titles and countless wins and you see him come out of retirement to be comprehensively beaten by his team mate and constantly banging wheels with other drivers and running others off the road and into walls, doesn't look good does it? Michael should have stayed in retirement; he had been out of F1 for three years and a lot has changed, he has struggled with the new regulations and new position in a higher midfield team struggling to get into the points when his team mate is constantly getting top six finishes!
#255085
I don't think it diminishes anything. I liken it to when Michael Jordan came back and played for the Bullets. It was painfull to watch a hero that once dominated and set a new standard of excelence as Jordan did play at such a pedestrian level. However, he was old and clearly past his prime. Shumacher is much the same. It is at some times painfull to watch, especially weekends like last. He is able to show flashes of speed, but he just doesn't have it when it comes to actual racing. Much like others sports, getting back into "game shape" is one of the hardest things to do when you have been away. He's clearly not there, and its most obvious when he has to battle for position on the track.

I do rate Nico quite highly as a driver, one of the top 5 I'd say. I think he took Shumachers pressence in the team as a challenge and really matured and stepped it up. I don't think getting beaten by Nico on a regular basis tarnishes your legacy.

He's just old and past it. How many of us at 40 can do what we did at 25, 30, or even 35 at the same level?
#255088
He is in pristine physical health for a 42 year old, I do not believe for one second that is why he is suffering.

He has to play nice, he has to play by the new rules. This isn't the old days where you could get away with cutting people off, cramming, squashing, bullying. You put him in the red bull he'd be flying. His skill is still there, I just feel he can't be mean on the road anymore. No one fears him.
#255089
Legacy ruined :rofl::rofl::rolleyes: !!

You may roll your eyes; but look at it this way; you've just started watching F1 in the last two or three years and you hear about Michael Schumacher's seven world titles and countless wins and you see him come out of retirement to be comprehensively beaten by his team mate and constantly banging wheels with other drivers and running others off the road and into walls, doesn't look good does it? Michael should have stayed in retirement; he had been out of F1 for three years and a lot has changed, he has struggled with the new regulations and new position in a higher midfield team struggling to get into the points when his team mate is constantly getting top six finishes!


Whatever :rolleyes: !
#255090
He is in pristine physical health for a 42 year old, I do not believe for one second that is why he is suffering.

He has to play nice, he has to play by the new rules. This isn't the old days where you could get away with cutting people off, cramming, squashing, bullying. You put him in the red bull he'd be flying. His skill is still there, I just feel he can't be mean on the road anymore. No one fears him.


That still doesn't explain his being comprehensively outqualified by Nico.
#255093
That still doesn't explain his being comprehensively outqualified by Nico.

Ever driven a car that your buddy was a tool in but you were a master in, I doubt it. No difference, everyone keeps basing their opinion upon his records which in all reality is setting one up for disappointment or a basis for scrutiny. Nobody is perfect yet a shadow is cast upon MS when he is NOT IN A TOP 3 CAR nor is Nico.

I know what I'm talking about because I stayed at a 'Holliday Inn Express' last night !!!
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