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[What's Burning?]

I think mankind did get to the moon but not with 11.

It would be political suicide doe BO to say he is dead and he is not. dumping him in the sea means that there is no Shrine to followers. plus it was done in 24 hours not to annoy any religion. It has been thought through, which leads me to believe that it is a hoax.

Well I'll wait for a handy dandy OBL video with him holing this weekends Hürriyet Daily News showing Vettel winning the GP of turkey.

It would have been much easier to perpetrate a "hoax" by saying they caught him in the mountains of Afghanistan instead of in a major city in Pakistan. There were other members of his family that were shot/detained and have likely now been picked up by Pakistani authorities. We simply don't have all of the peripheral details but to talk about this being a hoax right now, when we don't have all of the details and certainly don't know what can be released other than a potentially inflammatory picture would be a bit premature.

Reuters is reporting that Al Qaeda leaders aren't so skeptical of Osama's death.

DUBAI, May 6 (Reuters) - Al Qaeda promised retribution to the United States and its allies, including Pakistan, to avenge the death of its leader Osama bin Laden, the militant group said in a statement on Friday.

Calling bin Laden a martyr, the Islamist militant group promised to soon release an audio recording made by its leader a week before he died. The statement on Friday was the first by the group confirming bin Laden's death, five days after U.S. President Barack Obama announced that they had found and shot him in a U.S. raid in Pakistan.

"Oh glory, glory. Sheikh Osama did not build an organisation that will die with his death and leave with his exit," using the honorific sheikh, or "leader".

[What's Burning?]

I think mankind did get to the moon but not with 11.

so does this guy...
[youtube]ZOo6aHSY8hU[/youtube]

[bud]

Both sides saying he is dead should keep the skeptics quiet. Though they can talk about the mythical stealth choppers used in the raid... They aren't meant to exist.

[McLaren]

Both sides saying he is dead should keep the skeptics quiet. Though they can talk about the mythical stealth choppers used in the raid... They aren't meant to exist.

Reminds me of when they used the first stealth bombers.I had to laugh when they said sorry we shot it down but we couldn't see it.

[FRAFPDD]

Haha, with a large US-UK membership on here i was wondering when the inevitable special forces debate would pop up. They really keen it on Youtube.


SAS though.......different class

Can you explain why?

Can i prove why? No, i can explain why, but your mind is already made up.


SAS are world reknowned for being the worlds best, most people agree with this conclusion. Good enough reason by itself.

Also, there is a set number of press-ups, bench pulls etc, that candidates must pass in seal training to pass (from what ive read), SAS selection involves being "illegally" punched about in order to break you and politely tell you to f*** off as youve failed. The selection is a different class, the training is a different class, the history is a different class.


There is a reputed Sas selection part in which they keep you in a nice bath of local welsh (training takes part in mountains of wales)sheeps guts called " the sickener",others include being thrown down stairs in a locker.

Last but not least in the spirit of Britishness and proffesionalism, the SAS and military alike operate on half a shoe string, simple tools, simple effective weapons.

The US are given a free budget to use whatever they like, red dot sights, prototype rifles, hordes of ammo.

Just done believe anyone is better then the SAS by quite a bit. Most world SF are based and trained regularly by members.

Theres not many things we do best in the world here in Blighty, food, weather, but our military pound for pound is the best, tried and tested. The SAS are no exception.

[stonemonkey]

........SAS selection involves being "illegally" punched about in order to break you and politely tell you to f*** off as youve failed. .......

.....There is a reputed Sas selection part in which they keep you in a nice bath of local welsh (training takes part in mountains of wales)sheeps guts called " the sickener",others include being thrown down stairs in a locker.....

Are you sure you're not getting this mixed up with the Jackass selection procedure?

[FRAFPDD]

........SAS selection involves being "illegally" punched about in order to break you and politely tell you to f*** off as youve failed. .......

.....There is a reputed Sas selection part in which they keep you in a nice bath of local welsh (training takes part in mountains of wales)sheeps guts called " the sickener",others include being thrown down stairs in a locker.....

Are you sure you're not getting this mixed up with the Jackass selection procedure?

Could be? This could all be crap, its a secret organisation, but the things i listed are to make sure your more then just good at shooting a gun and pumping iron, cause you could still be the flimsiest little girl ever. These things test how big your man nuts are. Ranulph Fiennes (British Explorer/ Sas) claimed he was one of 2 of 150 odd that tried to get in and succeeded. Most people were gone by first week!

[acosmichippo]

I'm far from an expert on the subject, but I've heard very similar things from SEAL training. I don't think those guys can necessarily be reduced to good marksmen and bodybuilders.

[FRAFPDD]

I'm far from an expert on the subject, but I've heard very similar things from SEAL training. I don't think those guys can necessarily be reduced to good marksmen and bodybuilders.

Ill sound like a douche, but i think they can. There is a certain air of "bravado" around the US military in general that breeds a wide sense of complacency and arrogance. Ive seen an awful lot of videos of training and interviews, and whilst far from not respectable i dont think theyre near the SAS.


From what information is available to me this is. Ive never heard of an SAS soldier that isnt from the roughest areas of Britain, theyre reputededly around 70 percent scottish (hard b*astards)

[McLaren]

I'm far from an expert on the subject, but I've heard very similar things from SEAL training. I don't think those guys can necessarily be reduced to good marksmen and bodybuilders.

Ill sound like a douche, but i think they can. There is a certain air of "bravado" around the US military in general that breeds a wide sense of complacency and arrogance. Ive seen an awful lot of videos of training and interviews, and whilst far from not respectable i dont think theyre near the SAS.


From what information is available to me this is. Ive never heard of an SAS soldier that isnt from the roughest areas of Britain, theyre reputededly around 70 percent scottish (hard b*astards)

Not always true I know a couple od SAS and basicly they are gym fanatics(fitness that is,there is no such thing as a brick shot house in the SAS,to big he wouldn't survive.Yes 70% are scottish ,they are nutters.Basicly they are the best trained in the world.Thing is other countries have caught up now(they used to be the best by far).Don't under estimate the israelies they are as good as anyone.thats coming from a friend of mine in the know.

[bud]

theyre reputededly around 70 percent scottish (hard b*astards)

Scotland the Brave

[FRAFPDD]

I'm far from an expert on the subject, but I've heard very similar things from SEAL training. I don't think those guys can necessarily be reduced to good marksmen and bodybuilders.

Ill sound like a douche, but i think they can. There is a certain air of "bravado" around the US military in general that breeds a wide sense of complacency and arrogance. Ive seen an awful lot of videos of training and interviews, and whilst far from not respectable i dont think theyre near the SAS.


From what information is available to me this is. Ive never heard of an SAS soldier that isnt from the roughest areas of Britain, theyre reputededly around 70 percent scottish (hard b*astards)

Not always true I know a couple od SAS and basicly they are gym fanatics(fitness that is,there is no such thing as a brick shot house in the SAS,to big he wouldn't survive.Yes 70% are scottish ,they are nutters.Basicly they are the best trained in the world.Thing is other countries have caught up now(they used to be the best by far).Don't under estimate the israelies they are as good as anyone.thats coming from a friend of mine in the know.

Yeah but your being picky and selective now, im talking general jist of things, they focus on pure power, its a very american sterotype but they do.

Sure guys in the SAS might, but not in general, theyre usually fit enough just by being active/stamina, dont need huge guns on each arm to get in.

Thats also the main difference, people that get in the SAS are rough, working class, hard nock lifed, PSYCHOS. Literally, clever(IQ wise) nutcases.

And i said something already about the israeli special forces, being one of the best of the best.

[Rivelution]

I knew it.

The selection of DEVGRU to conduct the bin Laden mission has irked some in Delta, who are miffed that their organization —traditionally considered the pre-eminent special mission unit for direct action operations on land —was overlooked for such a prestigious tasking. “The infighting between the tribes is at an all-time high,” said a field-grade Army special operations officer. “People [in Delta] are livid.”

Some Delta personnel think that the fact that SEALs command both JSOC and U.S. Special Operations Command —Adm. Eric Olson in the latter case —was a critical factor behind DEVGRU’s selection for the mission, the field-grade Army special operations officer said.

http://www.armytimes.com/storyUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armytimes.com%2Fnews%2F2011%2F05%2Fmilitary-bin-laden-raid-a-triumph-for-special-operations-050911%2F

[What's Burning?]

I knew it.

The selection of DEVGRU to conduct the bin Laden mission has irked some in Delta, who are miffed that their organization —traditionally considered the pre-eminent special mission unit for direct action operations on land —was overlooked for such a prestigious tasking. “The infighting between the tribes is at an all-time high,” said a field-grade Army special operations officer. “People [in Delta] are livid.”

Some Delta personnel think that the fact that SEALs command both JSOC and U.S. Special Operations Command —Adm. Eric Olson in the latter case —was a critical factor behind DEVGRU’s selection for the mission, the field-grade Army special operations officer said.

http://www.armytimes.com/storyUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.armytimes.com%2Fnews%2F2011%2F05%2Fmilitary-bin-laden-raid-a-triumph-for-special-operations-050911%2F

All they need to do is tell the Delta guys that they reserve them for REALLY special operations.

[Rivelution]

Haha, with a large US-UK membership on here i was wondering when the inevitable special forces debate would pop up. They really keen it on Youtube.


SAS though.......different class

Can you explain why?

Can i prove why? No, i can explain why, but your mind is already made up.


SAS are world reknowned for being the worlds best, most people agree with this conclusion. Good enough reason by itself.

Also, there is a set number of press-ups, bench pulls etc, that candidates must pass in seal training to pass (from what ive read), SAS selection involves being "illegally" punched about in order to break you and politely tell you to f*** off as youve failed. The selection is a different class, the training is a different class, the history is a different class.


There is a reputed Sas selection part in which they keep you in a nice bath of local welsh (training takes part in mountains of wales)sheeps guts called " the sickener",others include being thrown down stairs in a locker.

Last but not least in the spirit of Britishness and proffesionalism, the SAS and military alike operate on half a shoe string, simple tools, simple effective weapons.

The US are given a free budget to use whatever they like, red dot sights, prototype rifles, hordes of ammo.

Just done believe anyone is better then the SAS by quite a bit. Most world SF are based and trained regularly by members.

Theres not many things we do best in the world here in Blighty, food, weather, but our military pound for pound is the best, tried and tested. The SAS are no exception.

Cool beans man, its your reality I guess. Not saying you're wrong as the SAS are respected across the globe for their tactics, professionalism, and being the grand daddy of SF and SOF units. But to say that the US has a "free budget" to do use whatever they like, and that navy seals could be considered as gym rats with guns sounds just plain ignorant.