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[McLaren]

I showed concern for his eyesight he showed concern for my stress levels, we were caring about fellow McLaren fans!

Now that's what you call team spirit

[vaptin]

I'm not surprised the redbull mechanics didn't see the funny side though.

And a little surprised the FIA haven't said anything? I hope that if it had caused a disadvantage they would've acted.

[bud]

I'm not surprised the redbull mechanics didn't see the funny side though.

And a little surprised the FIA haven't said anything? I hope that if it had caused a disadvantage they would've acted.

Yeah wheres your concern about the FIA's lack of action for Fernando's blatant cheating with the use of the DRS?

[FRAFPDD]

I'm not surprised the redbull mechanics didn't see the funny side though.

And a little surprised the FIA haven't said anything? I hope that if it had caused a disadvantage they would've acted.

Yeah wheres your concern about the FIA's lack of action for Fernando's blatant cheating with the use of the DRS?

I thought it set itself off?

[vaptin]

I'm not surprised the redbull mechanics didn't see the funny side though.

And a little surprised the FIA haven't said anything? I hope that if it had caused a disadvantage they would've acted.

Yeah wheres your concern about the FIA's lack of action for Fernando's blatant cheating with the use of the DRS?

I posted the rules a couple of times, its legality is determined by if it says enabled or not. If the DRS button lights up, from my reading of the rules that means its legal. Doesn't matter where Alonso was on track.

Since when did it become blatant anyway?

And what has this got to do with Button going to the wrong pit box?

[bud]

The wing didnt just open itself on the wrong straight, Alonso knew what he was doing when he used it. Just because his light was flashing didnt mean he was allowed to use it.

And this has alot to do with Buttons mistake. Youre asking for the FIA to look into a mistake by a driver yet overlook Alonso's usual dirty driving self? Typical

[FRAFPDD]

The wing didnt just open itself on the wrong straight, Alonso knew what he was doing when he used it. Just because his light was flashing didnt mean he was allowed to use it.

And this has alot to do with Buttons mistake. Youre asking for the FIA to look into a mistake by a driver yet overlook Alonso's usual dirty driving self? Typical

So you know for a fact that Alonso set it off?

[vaptin]

The wing didnt just open itself on the wrong straight, Alonso knew what he was doing when he used it. Just because his light was flashing didnt mean he was allowed to use it.

And this has alot to do with Buttons mistake. Youre asking for the FIA to look into a mistake by a driver yet overlook Alonso's usual dirty driving self? Typical

Not really we already discussed Alonso's wing in detail, and had an article on it stating this:

FIA officials are still investigating what caused the error.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula ... 109394.stm
And also about Alonso gaining no advantage so there won't be a penalty given.

I haven't heard anything official about Button's pitstop madness, I just wanted some reassurance it would be punished if Vettel had been held up or something. I can't think of any known rules which cover what Jenson did, maybe a generic one about pitlane safety?

Think about it, going I km/h over the speed limit gets you a fine, what about this? I'm not talking drive through penalties here, just some sort of response.

For the 4th time I think:

3.18.2 The adjustable bodywork may be activated by the driver at any time prior to the start of the race and, for
the sole purpose of improving overtaking opportunities during the race, after the driver has completed a
minimum of two laps after the race start or following a safety car period.
The driver may only activate the adjustable bodywork in the race when he has been notified via the control
electronics (see Article 8.2) that it is enabled. It will only be enabled if the driver is less than one second
behind another at any of the pre-determined positions around each circuit. The system will be disabled by
the control electronics the first time the driver uses the brakes after he has activated the system.
The FIA may, after consulting all competitors, adjust the above time proximity in order to ensure the stated
purpose of the adjustable bodywork is met.

http://www.formula1.com/inside_f1/rules ... 2/fia.html
If the button flashes, it's fine from my reading of that. (we're talking DRS button here, not the other one).

[bud]

The wing didnt just open itself on the wrong straight, Alonso knew what he was doing when he used it. Just because his light was flashing didnt mean he was allowed to use it.

And this has alot to do with Buttons mistake. Youre asking for the FIA to look into a mistake by a driver yet overlook Alonso's usual dirty driving self? Typical

So you know for a fact that Alonso set it off?

Dude the only way the wing works is if the driver pushes the button, what malfunctioned was the zone where it worked. The light was still flashing where it shouldnt have and Alonso clearly used it in that time.

[bud]

If the button flashes, it's fine from my reading of that. (we're talking DRS button here, not the other one).

That is not taking into account the zone being out of whack due to an error. Which is on the FIA or Ferrari's part. What Alonso did wrong was knowingly use the wing when he wasnt allowed to.

[FRAFPDD]

The wing didnt just open itself on the wrong straight, Alonso knew what he was doing when he used it. Just because his light was flashing didnt mean he was allowed to use it.

And this has alot to do with Buttons mistake. Youre asking for the FIA to look into a mistake by a driver yet overlook Alonso's usual dirty driving self? Typical

So you know for a fact that Alonso set it off?

Dude the only way the wing works is if the driver pushes the button, what malfunctioned was the zone where it worked. The light was still flashing where it shouldnt have and Alonso clearly used it in that time.

Sure, but you dont actually know for a fact that Alonso did it?

[vaptin]

The wing didnt just open itself on the wrong straight, Alonso knew what he was doing when he used it. Just because his light was flashing didnt mean he was allowed to use it.

And this has alot to do with Buttons mistake. Youre asking for the FIA to look into a mistake by a driver yet overlook Alonso's usual dirty driving self? Typical

So you know for a fact that Alonso set it off?

Dude the only way the wing works is if the driver pushes the button, what malfunctioned was the zone where it worked. The light was still flashing where it shouldnt have and Alonso clearly used it in that time.

Don't the drivers get to press the button in between the DRS timing line, and the actual DRS zone?

Maybe Alonso pressed it whilst at the end of the DRS straight because it hadn't opened, and it didn't register he wasn't in the zone after the corner, opened again before Alonso noticed it, and hit the override button to close it.

[Hammer278]

I'm quite sure ALonso is at least intelligent enough to know WHERE the DRS zone is? If you notice, it was closed as he went through the corner and opened as soon as he put the throttle down. If what you said is true, it should've been open while he was making the corner itself.

If he saw the light flashing at the wrong place, would you ignore it, or would you try and cheat and see if its actually working to gain a little advantage in the wrong place?

I'll just say I'm not surprised one bit with his actions. But he's done much worse things so I'm not surprised they've let this slide.

[spankyham]

Here's what I understood on the Alonso DRS.

The FiA equipment was at fault. For some reason, for Alonso, it had calibrated the activation zone for his DRS 300 meters further down the straight. The offset failure is described in this BBC article. It had therefore also been enabled for an additional 300 meters after the end of the straight, which is where it was opened for Nando. But it is also pretty obvious that having your DRS open going through the hairpin after the main straight is going to hurt Nando a lot more than it would help him. He was probably trying the get it to deploy all the way down the straight to try and get past Shumi and, because of the FiA offset error it activated on the hairpin for him and wouldn't deactivate until he braked again. Probably a scarey ride for him round that corner.

Nando's failure wasn't the only DRS failure BTW. Look at the picture below and you can see both Nando and Shumi's DRS activated, yet there was no car in front of Shumi?

[bud]

Sure, but you dont actually know for a fact that Alonso did it?

Ok youre either trying to start a fight as usual or are just plain thick to understand what i just said. THE WING DOES NOT OPEN ITSELF. can you put two and two together???

Don't the drivers get to press the button in between the DRS timing line, and the actual DRS zone?

Maybe Alonso pressed it whilst at the end of the DRS straight because it hadn't opened, and it didn't register he wasn't in the zone after the corner, opened again before Alonso noticed it, and hit the override button to close it.

When the drivers brake it closes, so it would have closed for the hairpin. After the hairpin he would have noticed the light still flashing and thats when it reopened again which is what everyone saw.

Look at the picture below and you can see both Nando and Shumi's DRS activated, yet there was no car in front of Shumi?

That is not taken from practice or qualifying?