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[What's Burning?]

^^ Like I said, he either is guilty of using it where he wasn't supposed to, or the system is flawed and should be scraped until ALL of the bugs have been resolved. After all, you can't have the wing popping open all on its own can you? That would be very unsafe.

[McLaren]

Was at work at this morning just watched the race WOW go Lewis superb drive ,credit to Webber as well great drive.Button lol, doesn't know which team he drives for and gives up race places very easily,don't think he will be very happy with that,overtaken by his team mate as well..
I see Alonso tries to cheat again

[bud]

Yeah his DRS button would have been lighting up after the hairpin so he might have used it again illegally. But for it to not stay open for the entire straight until he broke is a mystery.

[vaptin]

Yeah his DRS button would have been lighting up after the hairpin so he might have used it again illegally. But for it to not stay open for the entire straight until he broke is a mystery.

If it lit up and Alonso used it, it would've certainly been against the spirit of the rule. But I'm not so sure against the regulations:

The driver may only activate the adjustable bodywork in the race when he has been notified via the control
electronics (see Article 8.2) that it is enabled. It will only be enabled if the driver is less than one second
behind another at any of the pre-determined positions around each circuit. The system will be disabled by
the control electronics the first time the driver uses the brakes after he has activated the system.
The FIA may, after consulting all competitors, adjust the above time proximity in order to ensure the stated
purpose of the adjustable bodywork is met.

The position on track is secondary to this, the indication for the driver that its ok to be used is the button lighting up which in itself is dependent on the position the driver is on the track.

[bud]

Yeah it said in that article you posted his DRS zone didnt start until 300m to the hairpin instead of the 750m. Obviously some calibration glitch, but the light would have been lit up as he exited the corner, so must have manually applied it again which is wrong and deserves a sanction!

[McLaren]

Yeah it said in that article you posted his DRS zone didnt start until 300m to the hairpin instead of the 750m. Obviously some calibration glitch, but the light would have been lit up as he exited the corner, so must have manually applied it again which is wrong and deserves a sanction!

I bet he didn't go running into the stewards this week ,more like hide in the motorhome

[f1ea]

Ah so that's why it was so difficult for alonso to pAss schmacher on the drs straight; i noticed something was just out, thought it was the merc engine at work there...

Well i suppose alonso must be pretty angry About the drs, problems in 2 raaces lready. I suppose if there was a fia-related problem he was legal in using it whenever it flashed green... Doubt he will get punished when the malfuntion cost him so much, in fact the teams should come forward and ensure the fia looks into the issue. This shouldnt happen.

[bud]

Well i suppose alonso must be pretty angry About the drs, problems in 2 raaces lready. I suppose if there was a fia-related problem he was legal in using it whenever it flashed green...

He knew where he was allowed to use it, if he did use it after the hairpin then he is breaking the rules as the drivers know the zone. Just because it was flashing green doesn't mean anything.

Me thinks the FIA doesnt want to piss LDM off by penalising Alonso over an "artificial" device.

[Hammer278]

That counts as illegal bodywork movement and no matter how small the advantage, Alonso did gain advantage from that. If Sauber can get stripped off their points for such a minute misjudgement of the rear wing (because rules are rules), why isn't this applied to Ferrari? Mistake/accident or not, its against the bloody rules!

Fickle minded stewarding again...pathetic.

[vaptin]

I already posted the rules, it suggests that the determination for legality is indication that DRS is enabled rather than the position on the track. None of us know if Alonso actually pressed the button or not, his DRS opened late, it clearly suggests something went wrong.

[FRAFPDD]

How is Alonsos wing going up and down randomly his fault? Or Ferraris?

Bigger question can the fanboys keep themselves from foaming at the mouth as they attempt to reply to my question?

Please though im intrigued, it seems neither Ferrari or Alonso set the wing off, it went off on its own accord, why is that Ferrari or Alonsos fault?

[Robert12010]

what a drive from lewis! fantastic race, despite the problems,he was totally alive and kicking, and what a drive from webber, starting 18th and no kers, thats impressive but in a way not surprising because webber is blunt as nails and good performances from schumi, button, massa and rosberg....and with alonso's drs im not sure what to think because if it malfunctioned, then to be fair it would a be a harsh penalty

[What's Burning?]

How is Alonsos wing going up and down randomly his fault? Or Ferraris?

You've got no idea what the wing was doing, and there is nothing official posted, not even a hint that it's being investigated.

Bigger question can the fanboys keep themselves from foaming at the mouth as they attempt to reply to my question?

Remember your promise...

Please though im intrigued, it seems neither Ferrari or Alonso set the wing off, it went off on its own accord, why is that Ferrari or Alonsos fault?

Again, you've got no idea what actually happened, so your stance is illogical at best. I'm simply pointing out what I observed and what the rules are, and again, based on those things I know as facts, Alonso either activated the wing where it was clearly illegal to active, therefore should be penalized. Or, the whole DRS system should be re-evaluated because it is clearly flawed and potentially unsafe.

[FRAFPDD]

How is Alonsos wing going up and down randomly his fault? Or Ferraris?

You've got no idea what the wing was doing, and there is nothing official posted, not even a hint that it's being investigated.

Bigger question can the fanboys keep themselves from foaming at the mouth as they attempt to reply to my question?

Remember your promise...

Please though im intrigued, it seems neither Ferrari or Alonso set the wing off, it went off on its own accord, why is that Ferrari or Alonsos fault?

Again, you've got no idea what actually happened, so your stance is illogical at best. I'm simply pointing out what I observed and what the rules are, and again, based on those things I know as facts, Alonso either activated the wing where it was clearly illegal to active, therefore should be penalized. Or, the whole DRS system should be re-evaluated because it is clearly flawed and potentially unsafe.

Youve lost me completely?

Why have i got no idea what the wing was doing?

The fanboy remark was at my own "bretheren" who dont particularly enjoy one of the home boys turning against them, you know like how mexicans would kill a chico if he went and sided with the blacks in prison. Yeah its that but worse..... I was talking bout the Lewis fans baying for Alonsos blood.

Again why have i got no idea what the wing was doing? i dont know what your even attempting to say it just doesnt make sense?

[F1er]

Bigger question can the fanboys keep themselves from foaming at the mouth as they attempt to reply to my question?

To everyone and anyone who I have had harsh words or silly arguments with in the past, pretty much all of you.
I'm a little fed up of being a pest and getting warnings or thread locks so I've decided to act my age and be a bit more civil.

Might seem a pointless thread but it makes me feel better and it could hopefully build bridges between some of you.

Pointless indeed