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#250318
Indeed, the contact between Alonso and Hamilton WAS Alonso's fault. However, he compromised himself mainly. Two harsh penalties there. And THAT's a McLaren fan defending Alonso's penalty! :eek:
#250319
Lewis penalized for changing lines too many times to defend. This wasn't when they touched but on the pit straight. Technically it's true but how many times do we see it go unpunished. But Alonso shouldn't be penalised he did nothing wrong!


I agree, the contact was a racing incident.

Out of interest, when was the last time someone got a penalty for changing direction more than once whilst defending?
#250320
Out of interest, when was the last time someone got a penalty for changing direction more than once whilst defending?


To be honest, I really can't remember... but it has surely happened many a time. Naturally!
#250323
Lewis penalized for changing lines too many times to defend. This wasn't when they touched but on the pit straight. Technically it's true but how many times do we see it go unpunished. But Alonso shouldn't be penalised he did nothing wrong!


I agree, the contact was a racing incident.

Out of interest, when was the last time someone got a penalty for changing direction more than once whilst defending?


To be fair hedid exactly the same butworse last year and got away with it, when he did it this year I thought they might pull him up on it.
#250326
It wasn't against the regulations last year, but they were told not to.

Didn't think that'd be a penalty though, he was moving, but I didn't hear Alonso complaining.

Alonso's penalty? Wow that's harsh, was his fault, but it wasn't reckless. Stuff like that will always happen, Hamilton was verging right at the same time as Alonso (wasn't for the corner, Hamilton was defending). Was annoyed with Alonso as he more or less had third there anyway, but I'm sure I've seen worse incidents slide? What about Ruben's on Rosberg last race? There was contact as well earlier in the race from the midfield, I mean, what's going on here? They're clearly not penalising collisions, but Alonso caused the collision? Well technically for a collision to happen there must be a cause, surely there needs to be "reasonably his fault", which it wasn't, he just got too close. Watching the onboard you can see a sudden reduction in gap (between him and Lewis), Alonso was getting out of there as well - didn't drive into the back of him.

Hamilton didn't even blame Alonso either?
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#250331
It wasn't against the regulations last year, but they were told not to.

Didn't think that'd be a penalty though, he was moving, but I didn't hear Alonso complaining.

Alonso's penalty? Wow that's harsh, was his fault, but it wasn't reckless. Stuff like that will always happen, Hamilton was verging right at the same time as Alonso (wasn't for the corner, Hamilton was defending). Was annoyed with Alonso as he more or less had third there anyway, but I'm sure I've seen worse incidents slide? What about Ruben's on Rosberg last race?

Hamilton didn't even blame Alonso either?


Well Alonso kept 6th place so he didnt loose points for it, Hamilton did. But its the principle of it. its against racing. Crap decision!
#250333
I think it's unfair that Alonso didn't lose any points, though I suppose he did have to pit because of the incident (not that the stewards would take that into account).

Whatever, silly penalty for what was just a racing incident.
#250334
The best driving of the race and it gets slammed. This is disgraceful. You can clearly see Hamilton moves first, then Alonso follows all the way until the end of the straight where we actually see Alonso make his move to the outside and Hamilton moves to the middle of the track (if anything the opposite direction to Alonso). Hamilton is trying to break the tow down the straight which as far as I am aware isn't illegal. It would be a different matter if Alonso had darted to the right and Lewis covered, then Alonso went left and Hamilton covered but that is simply not what happened. There may have been a defensive maneuver at the beginning of the straight, but that was the only one. Poor decision and it has tarnished an otherwise enjoyable race.

I do think however that if a lot of other drivers attempted to recreate this type of racing then the resulting accident would be pretty severe. Alonso's penalty was equally ridiculous but had no effect on his position or points so its pretty redundant, the stewards should be ashamed.

Of course, this is just my take on what I have seen. If anything, Vettel's weaving whilst driving off the start could have been catastrophic if Hamilton hadn't reacted quickly enough.
#250335
What about Ruben's on Rosberg last race?


Barrichello got a drive through last race for hitting Rosberg.


Ok, thanks, I forgot about that.
It wasn't against the regulations last year, but they were told not to.

Didn't think that'd be a penalty though, he was moving, but I didn't hear Alonso complaining.

Alonso's penalty? Wow that's harsh, was his fault, but it wasn't reckless. Stuff like that will always happen, Hamilton was verging right at the same time as Alonso (wasn't for the corner, Hamilton was defending). Was annoyed with Alonso as he more or less had third there anyway, but I'm sure I've seen worse incidents slide? What about Ruben's on Rosberg last race?

Hamilton didn't even blame Alonso either?


Well Alonso kept 6th place so he didnt loose points for it, Hamilton did. But its the principle of it. its against racing. Crap decision!


Exactly, they've made the rule unfairly (I think we're all agreed for once) strict. Consistently enforcing this for the rest of the season could be a nightmare. We might start to see drivers backing off and just overtaking in the DRS zone.

I don't think stewarding decisions can be appealed though? Just ones directly from the FIA?
#250336
Ludicrous, ludicrous, ludicrous

Someone needs to seriously grab all these stewards, line them up, and read the riot act to them - we the fans do not watch and follow F1 with any interest in them and their ridiculous input. The less they are heard of the better.

Everything between Nando and Lewis could be best described as r-a-c-i-n-g! That;s something that used to happen in F1 not that many years ago.

Here's my comment to CW and the stewards "p!ss off"
#250338
I don't think it's even worth appealing just for 2 points, not with the current scoring system.


They aren't really able to appeal a time penalty, anyway.

The stewards have been pretty bad all-round so far; why did Buemi get a stop-and-go instead of a drive-through? :confused:
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