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[F1er]

well that was a very good race. i really did enjoy it and even though at 2am it feels more like a dream..... the petrov/alonso strategy thing got me thinking it was a dream.

VERY good, solid, smart drive from Checo Perez...... excited to see a good rookie pair (diresta and him). But Perez was amazing, kept his cool, understood track and tire conditions.... A+

Also Petrov..... i got him props in the darkhorse thread. He's definitely underestimated by his team and the people. I tell ya... if he keeps his nose in one piece, he'll get very good results. He was also last yr not embarrassed by Kubica.

Vettel..... should get performance ballast for the next race

Alonso drove well. very good, but like he said himself, he'd rather drive so-so and win. so let's hope for more mediocre driving... with better points.
[b]Lewis drive was ok[/b], not bad, but far from great... but he got good points. That's the spirit.

so.... WTF was up with the ferrari?? hopefully this was a fluke. the car is not that bad, and alonso was fastest man on track on various occasions.....

Webber was really pixxed at the end... poor race, with vettel in such crushing form, this yr could be really bad for him.

eh.... there was lots of overtaking, i'm not sure how much due to the rear wingy thingy... but i still think the tires made the most overtaking possible, not the wingy thingy.

The only man that kept up with Vettel,had an ok drive?
Whatever makes you feel happy I guess

[The_Stig_Money]

Has any rookie ever scored points in his first F1 race (Sergio Perez DQed)?

Hamilton, Vettel, Webber, Bourdais, Buemi and Villeneuve are just a few that I can come up with.

Sorry i just woke up, the brains not working yet. I am Wikiing it right now. I believe there is 15 ( Hamilton being 13th)

I guess most GP2 drivers start at good teams, I can only imagine what it would take to score points in your first race

[FRAFPDD]

Bit of a shame that already we've had:


Hamilton managed to break his own undertray presented as fact, if not it was the damage fairies.


And Hamiltons drive was ok.



One, you cant say Hamilton caused it or not at the moment


Two, Hamiltons drive wasnt silverstone 08, but it was more then a decent drive, Vettels weekend was what was special, because i dont think that cars even as dominant as 2010.


Lets not be b*astards to those who got good results cause our favourites didnt.

[f1ea]

THere were some good overtakings today, I liked Vettel's move on Button.

very nice. kers and wingy-thingy less

Too bad for Sauber team, I hope they will get their points back.

force india might disagree..... but i do hope they get their points.

Sergio perez made his impression though... great drive. he was even having fastest sectors at some point... on a 1stop strategy

The drag reduction system was a colossal failure. After all the kerfuffle over the extra 10-12 mph top speed and fears it would make passing too easy, I could see exactly one pass that clearly was facilitated by the DRS.

the tires where its at.
but for the sake of........ simply letting them go ignored, i'm going to quit complaining about the gizmos and hope they either improve things (which i'm sure they wont), remove em or simply we get used to living with them.

It wasnt caused in the off we saw on the television, which is what was originally considered to be the cause. Of course something caused it. A curb, debris, part failure . Im sure it will be analysed until they find out why it happened

i only saw it live and it was like 3am... i'll watch the re-run in about 40mins and see if i spot anything. Not that it would make much difference in his drive, but just out of interest, as there could be something interesting on that Mcl floor.

The only man that kept up with Vettel,had an ok drive?
Whatever makes you feel happy I guess

[The_Stig_Money]

Who ever looked at the Saubers should take a look at LHs car, it obviously broke before he hit the curb ( there may be loose connections or some flexing)

I do have to say that LH had a good drive with broken parts

[FRAFPDD]

Who ever looked at the Saubers should take a look at LHs car, it obviously broke before he hit the curb ( there may be loose connections or some flexing)

I do have to say that LH had a good drive with broken parts

More a good drive to be catching Vettel for a good part of it, and to qualify second on saturday, the damage obviously didnt make that much difference and therefore Hamilton didnt need to alter his driving much.

[Jensonb]

Who ever looked at the Saubers should take a look at LHs car, it obviously broke before he hit the curb ( there may be loose connections or some flexing)

Damage sustained during the race is exempted. Just because it was broken before his off, doesn't mean it wasn't broken by a racing incident. He could have hit the curb coming out of the final Turn or something. The Sauber was built that way. Two very different situations.

[f1ea]

Bit of a shame that already we've had:
Hamilton managed to break his own undertray presented as fact, if not it was the damage fairies.
And Hamiltons drive was ok.
One, you cant say Hamilton caused it or not at the moment
Two, Hamiltons drive wasnt silverstone 08, but it was more then a decent drive, Vettels weekend was what was special, because i dont think that cars even as dominant as 2010.
Lets not be b*astards to those who got good results cause our favourites didnt.

Hamilton had a great Q and a decent race. Mclaren did a great job.
He made no positions in the race, didnt really challenge Vettel (although thats obviously forgiveable), no exciting overtakes etc. Petrov wasnt that far in a Renault, and neither Alonso on 3 stops and a so-so performance from the car. Lewis was hardly any faster than anyone and his teammate was on pretty much the same pace which proves the car was good enough. To me, that's not a great drive, even if it was good.

Great was Petrov (look at his teammate, look how many positions he took, look at the car, didnt put a wheel out of bounds etc). Heck, he didnt even know where to stop in parc ferme he he

[F1er]

Who ever looked at the Saubers should take a look at LHs car, it obviously broke before he hit the curb ( there may be loose connections or some flexing)

You mean like the RB7?
If thats the case

[FRAFPDD]

Bit of a shame that already we've had:
Hamilton managed to break his own undertray presented as fact, if not it was the damage fairies.
And Hamiltons drive was ok.
One, you cant say Hamilton caused it or not at the moment
Two, Hamiltons drive wasnt silverstone 08, but it was more then a decent drive, Vettels weekend was what was special, because i dont think that cars even as dominant as 2010.
Lets not be b*astards to those who got good results cause our favourites didnt.

Hamilton had a great Q and a decent race. Mclaren did a great job.
He made no positions in the race, didnt really challenge Vettel (although thats obviously forgiveable), no exciting overtakes etc. Petrov wasnt that far in a Renault, and neither Alonso on 3 stops and a so-so performance from the car. Lewis was hardly any faster than anyone and his teammate was on pretty much the same pace which proves the car was good enough. To me, that's not a great drive, even if it was good.

Great was Petrov (look at his teammate, look how many positions he took, look at the car, didnt put a wheel out of bounds etc). Heck, he didnt even know where to stop in parc ferme he he

I know, thats what im saying, but theres no need for sour grapes from a couple of guys cause he drove well. Also, you said intially his drive was "ok" so.........maybe you were peeved at the results or what, but you did say ok, i think it was more then ok, not much. But more then "ok", unless of course you feel Hamiltons standard of driving is so damn high that anything less then a win is poor

He did all the hard work on saturday.

[Hexagram]

Great was Petrov (look at his teammate, look how many positions he took, look at the car, didnt put a wheel out of bounds etc). Heck, he didnt even know where to stop in parc ferme he he

You are aware Nick's car was badly damaged in a first lap incident right?

Today was a tough race. I’m obviously disappointed not to finish in the points, but it just wasn’t possible, especially after I got hit on the first lap. It’s a shame because I had made such a good start from 18th to 12th by the first corner. The damage to the car was quite severe, mostly to the right hand bodywork, sidepod and engine cover. So it wasn’t a strong race for me at all. But, I’m pleased for the team and Vitaly that we have this excellent result today. It shows that we have a competitive car and that we can fight hard this year.”

[Peng]

So much hate for Hamilton already and its only the 1st race.

For those who seem to have only watched half the race something you may want to think about.

Hamilton on lap 14 was only 1 second behind Vettel and was catching him considerably every lap, RBR made a smart decision pitting Vettel at the end of that lap and Mclaren made the mistake of letting Hamilton run an extra 2 laps with worn tyres which cost him around 7 seconds.

If Hamilton had for example pitted the same lap or maybe even just the lap after, or if Button had been able to hold Vettel back (Even though Vettel clearly overtook off the track ) Hamilton would have been very close if not infront after the 1st pitstops.

Not like it would have made a difference with Hamiltons car breaking mid race and i am pretty sure the RB7 is faster than the MP4-26 anyway so i highly doubt Hamilton would have fought Vettel very hard even without the mistakes with the pitstop, but the point is he wasn't far off Vettel's pace infact he was matching Vettel's pace until the final 15-20 laps or so.

Not to say Vettel drove a bad race because he was amazing in both the race and Quali, but i wouldn't say he did any better than Hamilton since both of them had a very boring race in comparison to some of the midfield drivers.

If Alonso didn't botch the start he would of finished higher. Not first but higher than 4th. Oh well it is still a very, very, very looooooooong championship.

If Button didn't botch the start he would of finished higher also since his drive thru was a direct result of that bad start and even with that silly mistake he managed to finish with some decent points, and if that was the case Alonso would have most likely finished 4th anyway :p but both drove well.

My view on the race.

Vettel - Perfect strategy by RBR and a very solid and consistent drive.
Hamilton - Poor strategy and mechanical problems caused lots of problems but he drove well and got a decent amount of points.
Petrov - Awesome for him to get his 1st podium he drove well but was never really challenged the same as Hamilton and Vettel.
Alonso - Poor start but he managed to keep it together and drove well, also showed in my opinion that the ferrari does have the pace to keep up with RBR and Mclaren so i wouldn't be surprised to see him Qualify better in the next race.
Webber - No clue what has happened to him but he drove a pretty terrible all weekend, i have always seen him as a very inconsistent but talented driver and he seems to be showing his incosistent side again.
Button - Poor start and poor decision with the illegal overtake which is not like him at all, Button is always the calm and intelligent driver on the track using his brain to win and today i think he left it in the paddock because he clearly wasn't using it at all, ignoring that though he drove well and finished with decent points.
Sauber - I didn't even notice Perez until like lap 40 or so and couldn't believe he had only stopped once so its amazing he managed that many laps on tyres that most of the drivers couldn't keep healthy for longer than 10 laps, and Koby drove well and was only a few seconds behind perez even with an extra stop but i think they both showed how well developed the Sauber is and i am expecting a decent amount of points finishes for them in the future races.
Di resta - I am really disappointed if he did give up position to Sutil as i think he drove much better all weekend and deserved to be infront of Sutil at the end of the race, although i am sure he will be happy with his 1 point even if it was at the expense of the Sauber team.

Overall a great race and happy to have F1 back, the season can only get better so i cant wait until the next race.

[darwin dali]

Has any rookie ever scored points in his first F1 race (Sergio Perez DQed)?

Hamilton, Vettel, Webber, Bourdais, Buemi and Villeneuve are just a few that I can come up with.

Do you know whether a rookie has won in his first race ever?

[scotty]

Has any rookie ever scored points in his first F1 race (Sergio Perez DQed)?

Hamilton, Vettel, Webber, Bourdais, Buemi and Villeneuve are just a few that I can come up with.

Do you know whether a rookie has won in his first race ever?

No, unless you count the old Indy 500 races in the 60's.

[darwin dali]

Has any rookie ever scored points in his first F1 race (Sergio Perez DQed)?

Hamilton, Vettel, Webber, Bourdais, Buemi and Villeneuve are just a few that I can come up with.

Do you know whether a rookie has won in his first race ever?

No, unless you count the old Indy 500 races in the 60's.

JV was close after winning pole and leading in his first race only to have to yield to DH due to some oil leak...