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By Gaz
#246841
Mclaren


Red Bull
These were taking during quali by Darren Heath approaching Turn 9

Same place in the track.

If the rules say no felixble Aero then they need to enforce it, because thats f***ing daft.
Last edited by Gaz on 26 Mar 11, 13:18, edited 2 times in total.
#246842
Whats stupid is that Mclaren and others havent copied it, cause it aint gettin' banned.


Cant be that hard to make a wing to pass tests.
#246901
:hehe: This again,

Flexi wings? No. Smart engineering that allows lower front ride height? :yes:. Why hasnt the rest of the grid copied it? :rolleyes:
By Bounce
#246992
I remember reading that Horner said it was some sort of carbon composite mix that was a closely guarded secret.

Looks like its still a secret today which is no mean feat... Fair play to them (And I'm a McLaren fan)
#246994
I would LOVE too learn what the loophole is because if they are banned as Gaz mention the RB is still flexing which atleast to me is cut and dry but hey innovation has returned to F1 so cool.
#246997
Even the middle section is lower then the Mclaren.

Did anybody see how high MS car was?
#246999
Did anybody see how high MS car was?

Yes and their design looks too be going backwards rather than forward. :(
Last edited by texasmr2 on 26 Mar 11, 17:45, edited 1 time in total.
#247003
Is it still a static test like last season? if so as long as it passed those static tests then it's legal as far as the sporting regulations go! There will always be a certain amount of flexing from the front and rear wings under load; even if you made it out of steel it'll probably flex to a certain degree; if this is going to be a problem; ban wings altogether and rely on mechanical grip!
#247018
I think the concern is the amount of flex as we all know a certain amount of flex is going to happen unless those 'nose to wing' cables are used to minimalize the flex. Regardless I respect a designers fortitude trying too find loopholes, it's racing and ingenuity is the mother of all invention.
#247020
I don't think it's just the load that is important in making the wings flex, but where it is applied. A clever designer could shape the wing to direct the airflow over a key part of the wing which, when subject to that level of force, causes it to flex. Perhaps even several points which must all be under that load in order for this effect, in which case it's likely that the tests carried out when the cars are being scrutinised would not be able to cause the wings to flex.

Note that when it comes to aerodynamics, I haven't really got a clue and that may sound like the most ridiculous thing ever.
#247023
No that sounds reasonable as the RB front wing has ALOT of things happening on the ends, crazy stuff I tell ya what :yes: .
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By scotty
#247030
It passes the test, so is therefore legal. There can be zero logical debate about that. Props to them for using material technology to improve the car, it's something that is quite rare these days. Makes me laugh when i hear calls to ban it - why? Because they're clever enough to find that advantage where no one else can and no one else is good enough to replicate it properly!?

I don't think it's just the load that is important in making the wings flex, but where it is applied. A clever designer could shape the wing to direct the airflow over a key part of the wing which, when subject to that level of force, causes it to flex. Perhaps even several points which must all be under that load in order for this effect, in which case it's likely that the tests carried out when the cars are being scrutinised would not be able to cause the wings to flex.

Note that when it comes to aerodynamics, I haven't really got a clue and that may sound like the most ridiculous thing ever.


Yes, that is entirely conceivable, although i would guess that at most it's only a small part of the effect (considering that Horner alluded to the use of a certain material).
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