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By Martin
#24597
I understand where you are coming from 8B but a major difference between F1 and most other classes of motor racing, is that the cars are not 'even'. In other classes (including A1GP) it is really just a drivers competition with only a few choices for the team, but I see F1 as a team competition. not a drivers. It is interesting to compare drivers but it is the whole package from design, engine performance, Aero, chassis, trackside performance, strategys and tactics. There are so many variables that that ia what is so great about F! for me, and multiple tyre suppliers is just another variable in the pot.


i know but i'd but it has to be kept at a level where a driver isn't winning races because his car has more gadgets on it that assist his driving. I say one tyre supplier is a good thing but we should also allow teams to try to out-develop each other with engines, aerodynamics etc


In many ways the tyre is the most important part of the car. Everything else works through it, and engines, transmission, aero etc can only work well if the tyre allows it to. All the more reason, I think for allowing choice here. Ferrari is a good example, they made the B/stone work where other teams struggled with it.


but do you want a situation where one set of tyres suit a particular track making getting near the front a lot easier compared to a driver on another set of tyres? I was all for choice but seeing how well that last season went with one tyre supplier i think f1 should stick to it. It makes the race more competitive


Ferrari & McL are the ones that spend most time at the front, and that is not only because of the tyres, its because of the package. One tyre may suit one circuit but not another, that applies to the rest of the package - wheelbase, straight line speed, traction etc. Tyres are not THE sole factor to make a difference albeit that they are an essential component.
To continue with your previous point, no I dont want a car to win because it has more gadgets than another, there should be rules, and there are. The Ferrari floor that was banned for example, and cost is a serious issue also. For the good of the sport costs must be controlled so that the smaller teams can still be somewhere in the mix. Indeed, I feel that more should be done to allow the lower budget teams to compete. The uneveness in the sport is more to do with bank accounts than tyres.
It is said that having a single tyre supplier reduces cost - I am not sure why. If tyre deveolpment was restricted then costs could be controlled that way.
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By 8-ball
#24604
Ferrari & McL are the ones that spend most time at the front, and that is not only because of the tyres, its because of the package. One tyre may suit one circuit but not another, that applies to the rest of the package - wheelbase, straight line speed, traction etc. Tyres are not THE sole factor to make a difference albeit that they are an essential component.
To continue with your previous point, no I dont want a car to win because it has more gadgets than another, there should be rules, and there are. The Ferrari floor that was banned for example, and cost is a serious issue also. For the good of the sport costs must be controlled so that the smaller teams can still be somewhere in the mix. Indeed, I feel that more should be done to allow the lower budget teams to compete. The uneveness in the sport is more to do with bank accounts than tyres.
It is said that having a single tyre supplier reduces cost - I am not sure why. If tyre deveolpment was restricted then costs could be controlled that way.


you're wrong :lol:
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By Martin
#24606
Oh OK :o
By toothe
#24614
I like a single tyre supplier, it levels the playing field and stops certain teams forming "special" relationships with one particular supplier.

We want to see which teams build the best car and/or have the best driver, not who has the best tyre or who can bottom kiss a tyre supplier enough to have special tyres made just for them.



the tyres are part of the car, so building the best car can and should include tyres. ;)
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By Martin
#24615
Thanks for the advice RD ! I am surprised that locking is going on. The first one was locked after my post which was not abusive at all. Mind you, maybe you and demuri should cool it a bit. I would say though that in that subject DDs post were also very close to being abusive, so I cant see where she was coming from.

Lets all cool it and get back to F1
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By Stephen
#24620
Lets all cool it and get back to F1


Agreed.
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By Martin
#24631
I like a single tyre supplier, it levels the playing field and stops certain teams forming "special" relationships with one particular supplier.

We want to see which teams build the best car and/or have the best driver, not who has the best tyre or who can bottom kiss a tyre supplier enough to have special tyres made just for them.



the tyres are part of the car, so building the best car can and should include tyres. ;)


Succinctly put - I agree
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By racechick
#24646
So is DD really a girl??? :?::shock: I've asked that before but no one answered. I guess she must be. :? And yes she can be a bit abusive if you dont like Ferrari :roll:
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By racechick
#24648
Sorry sorry, Thats not about F1, But I started writing it before the last couple of posts(and I did mention Ferrari :lol: )
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By Martin
#24650
Sorry sorry, Thats not about F1, But I started writing it before the last couple of posts(and I did mention Ferrari :lol: )


forgiven! Is DD really a girl ? I dont really know but a name like racechic, are you really a girl? Sorry, thats not very F1 either is it?
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By racechick
#24652
:lol: Yes Im a girl :lol:
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By deMuRe
#24662
Back off fellas she's MINE!!!!

:lol:
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By texasmr2
#24663
And yes she can be a bit abusive if you dont like Ferrari :roll:

If that's true then DD is no different than alot of McLaren fan's. :P
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By racechick
#24665
And yes she can be a bit abusive if you dont like Ferrari :roll:

If that's true then DD is no different than alot of McLaren fan's. :P


Yes well two wrongs dont make a right do they :roll: And She is in a position to moderate and judge other people's posts 8)
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By texasmr2
#24675
And yes she can be a bit abusive if you dont like Ferrari :roll:

If that's true then DD is no different than alot of McLaren fan's. :P


Yes well two wrongs dont make a right do they :roll: And She is in a position to moderate and judge other people's posts 8)

That's just your opinion due to your hatred of Ferrari imho. Yes DD has the power of moderating but DD is first and foremost a F1 fan so why is it any different than any other member's judgement or outlook? Basically it's having a problem with 'authority' and DD has not overstepped any boundarie's.

Member's want moderating but dont want to be moderated, it's a double edged sword, so it's a very THIN line to walk.

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