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[bud]

They were saying this last year about Lewis and Jenson. With the full fuel loads, Jenson was meant to beat Lewis by conserving tyre wear then.
I think it's all but a myth Lewis is one of the best and in being so is adaptable. Never under estimate him.

[vaptin]

They were saying this last year about Lewis and Jenson. With the full fuel loads, Jenson was meant to beat Lewis by conserving tyre wear then.
I think it's all but a myth Lewis is one of the best and in being so is adaptable. Never under estimate him.

Not sure about that, last year the tyres were so good it didn't really matter. Although Lewis did well to conserve his in the Canadian gp.

But Lewis does seem to mention tyres going off a lot more, Brazil and Abu Dhabi I can remember, might have been others. And clear evidence I think his tyres had gone off in the closing stages of the Korean gp.

[bud]

They were saying this last year about Lewis and Jenson. With the full fuel loads, Jenson was meant to beat Lewis by conserving tyre wear then.
I think it's all but a myth Lewis is one of the best and in being so is adaptable. Never under estimate him.

Not sure about that, last year the tyres were so good it didn't really matter. Although Lewis did well to conserve his in the Canadian gp.

But Lewis does seem to mention tyres going off a lot more, Brazil and Abu Dhabi I can remember, might have been others. And clear evidence I think his tyres had gone off in the closing stages of the Korean gp.

Yeah I wouldnt expect anything less coming from someone who goes for the snake, you and f1ea are wishful thinking in Jenson beating him this year.

And go tell Massa and Schumacher that last years tyres were soooo good

But rewind back to the beginning of last season and this same discussion was being had. If you're not sure about that use the search function.

[Hammer278]

They were saying this last year about Lewis and Jenson. With the full fuel loads, Jenson was meant to beat Lewis by conserving tyre wear then.
I think it's all but a myth Lewis is one of the best and in being so is adaptable. Never under estimate him.

Not sure about that, last year the tyres were so good it didn't really matter. Although Lewis did well to conserve his in the Canadian gp.

But Lewis does seem to mention tyres going off a lot more, Brazil and Abu Dhabi I can remember, might have been others. And clear evidence I think his tyres had gone off in the closing stages of the Korean gp.

Closing stages huh? I remember the same race, Mr Tyre Conserver himself was almost in tears at the post race interview after finishing out of the points in a McLaren??....gibbering something along the lines of "I dont know what happened...buh buh ...there was just no grip! buh wuh wuh ...I think the Championship is lost wuh wuh wuh "

I'm glad these tyres fall asleep quickly, its time for one of the most ridiculous myths in F1 to die completely during 2011.

[Jensonb]

They were saying this last year about Lewis and Jenson. With the full fuel loads, Jenson was meant to beat Lewis by conserving tyre wear then.
I think it's all but a myth Lewis is one of the best and in being so is adaptable. Never under estimate him.

But it's not a myth, it was borne out several times throughout the season, it just wasn't dramatic enough to really be a major factor any more than a couple of times, likely owing to the famed longevity of the Bridgestones.

I really don't get why it's so hard for Lewis's fans to accept the idea that nobody's perfect. I mean, Fernando is consistently described as having one of the best all-around skillset of all the drivers, and he has weaknesses too. In his case, hot-headedness.

[Hammer278]

I dont think any Lewis fan thinks he's perfect...Monza last year, Canada 2008 are great examples of why he is far from perfect. But he's pretty damn good, that's for sure.

[FRAFPDD]

I dont think any Lewis fan thinks he's perfect...Monza last year, Canada 2008 are great examples of why he is far from perfect. But he's pretty damn good, that's for sure.

Your wasting your time, anyone that isnt passively a Lewis fan just cannot take it when he recives praise for doing something right, they just cannot take it.


I havent met a fan fo his yet that thinks hes perfect, i tell you what i have met, hundreds of fans of his that spend their days countlessly counter-arguing haters on various websites.


Lewis beats a two time and reigning wdc in his first year- "yeah so what"
Lewis overtakes pretty much any chance he gets to, wheras the rest of the field bar a japanese struggle to make one- " well ive seen better"
Lewis manages overtakes nobody else could dream of managing, like on Kimi at Monza 07, or Rosberg Australia 10- " kubica could do it"
Lewis manages to take a world title in his second year in F1 " Hes just another Villeneuve"
Lewis crashes out of a race through a car failure " god this guy needs to go race in nascar or something"
Lewis remains unbeaten by any teammate of 3 he has had in F1 of which two were world champions " yeah well that makes sense as hes Mclarens golden boy"
Lewis whether car is bad or good is always complimenting the effort of his team and the factory back at woking " god this guy is so arrogant"
Lewis finishes 3/4/5th as oppose to upfront winning " see i told you he only wins when his car is better then everyones"

He cant do no right Hammer you see. Just learn to live with it, please, for the sake of the continuity of this forum as a respectable one, just ignore it.

[Hammer278]

Lewis beats a two time and reigning wdc in his first year- "yeah so what"
Lewis overtakes pretty much any chance he gets to, wheras the rest of the field bar a japanese struggle to make one- " well ive seen better"
Lewis manages overtakes nobody else could dream of managing, like on Kimi at Monza 07, or Rosberg Australia 10- " kubica could do it"
Lewis manages to take a world title in his second year in F1 " Hes just another Villeneuve"
Lewis crashes out of a race through a car failure " god this guy needs to go race in nascar or something"
Lewis remains unbeaten by any teammate of 3 he has had in F1 of which two were world champions " yeah well that makes sense as hes Mclarens golden boy"
Lewis whether car is bad or good is always complimenting the effort of his team and the factory back at woking " god this guy is so arrogant"
Lewis finishes 3/4/5th as oppose to upfront winning " see i told you he only wins when his car is better then everyones"

We need to make this into a template since its so f'in true.

[Jensonb]

I dont think any Lewis fan thinks he's perfect...Monza last year, Canada 2008 are great examples of why he is far from perfect. But he's pretty damn good, that's for sure.

Your wasting your time, anyone that isnt passively a Lewis fan just cannot take it when he recives praise for doing something right, they just cannot take it.


I havent met a fan fo his yet that thinks hes perfect

I find this really frustrating because praise has nothing to do with it, this is about the fact that as soon as anyone points out a weakness of the Lewis Hamilton school of driving technique, it is immediately dismissed. So, let me get this straight, he's not perfect, but he is without flaw? Let's see what Wiktionary has to say about the word "perfect":

Synonyms
(fitting its definition precisely): accurate, flawless

[FRAFPDD]

I dont think any Lewis fan thinks he's perfect...Monza last year, Canada 2008 are great examples of why he is far from perfect. But he's pretty damn good, that's for sure.

Your wasting your time, anyone that isnt passively a Lewis fan just cannot take it when he recives praise for doing something right, they just cannot take it.


I havent met a fan fo his yet that thinks hes perfect

I find this really frustrating because praise has nothing to do with it, this is about the fact that as soon as anyone points out a weakness of the Lewis Hamilton school of driving technique, it is immediately dismissed. So, let me get this straight, he's not perfect, but he is without flaw? Let's see what Wiktionary has to say about the word "perfect":

Synonyms
(fitting its definition precisely): accurate, flawless

I find it frustrating that praise is clearly linked to this idea you have of Lewis fans thinking hes perfect, so let ME get this straight, two people have now said hes not perfect, and your still harping on that we are?! Your absolutely (if you dont mind me saying jensonb) ridiculous claim that weaknesses of Lewis Hamilton are immediately dismissed is both GROSSLY misinformed and entirely absurd. ESPECIALLY given that Hammer and i have within the space of about an hour both said it isnt true. I would usualyl now state to reinforce my opinion that we dont dismiss criticism by saying that Lewis crashes a lot and tyre wear etc etc, but to be honest im so fed up and tired of doing that and STILL you come on here and tar us all with the same brush by saying that we ALL immediately dismiss our drivers flaws. Its just not true. Not true in the slightest.

Its entirely unfair given the driver we supports immense talent that we cant reap the benefits of his advantages without ebing called fanboys, but we must always address his weaknesses when it is CONSTANTLY questioned and highlighted by those that have no care for him.

[darwin dali]

What's the topic of this thread? Ah, I see: Lewis Hamilton

[FRAFPDD]

What's the topic of this thread? Ah, I see: Lewis Hamilton

dont blame me.

[Hansy]

What's the topic of this thread? Ah, I see: Lewis Hamilton

dont blame me.

No s*** Sherlock

I, for one, love this change in tyres. Last year's tyres were just plain boring most of the time, only in Canada they provided a cool race, which was my favourite last year. So I guess I'm a lover of tyre degradation and pit stops

[Jensonb]

I find it frustrating that praise is clearly linked to this idea you have of Lewis fans thinking hes perfect, so let ME get this straight, two people have now said hes not perfect, and your still harping on that we are?! Your absolutely (if you dont mind me saying jensonb) ridiculous claim that weaknesses of Lewis Hamilton are immediately dismissed is both GROSSLY misinformed and entirely absurd. ESPECIALLY given that Hammer and i have within the space of about an hour both said it isnt true. I would usualyl now state to reinforce my opinion that we dont dismiss criticism by saying that Lewis crashes a lot and tyre wear etc etc, but to be honest im so fed up and tired of doing that and STILL you come on here and tar us all with the same brush by saying that we ALL immediately dismiss our drivers flaws. Its just not true. Not true in the slightest.

Its entirely unfair given the driver we supports immense talent that we cant reap the benefits of his advantages without ebing called fanboys, but we must always address his weaknesses when it is CONSTANTLY questioned and highlighted by those that have no care for him.

No, because what you two cited were failures, not flaws. It's easy to say "he makes mistakes", because that's an indisputable fact. The matter at hand is skillset, and this discussion has done noting to refute the claim that any flaw in his skillset is immediately dismissed. Lewis is not as good at conserving tyres as Jenson is, nor is he as consistent. He is, however, out and out ultimately faster and more adaptable.

But any time someone says that, we are immediately told that no, Lewis is amazing at everything and nobody has any advantages over him at all in any aspect of driving. Just because you don't say "perfect" doesn't mean the implication isn't there.

[FRAFPDD]

Im lost now, is this about getting one over for Jenson or what?

What are you even saying, that people wont admit Jensons easier on the tyres?


The point in hand was that at teh start of 2010 the same talk of this year happened then, and a BUCKETLOAD of people said Lewis is going to struggle with his tyres and Jenson isnt. And it didnt materialise.

All people are saying now is that have you not learnt your lesson from last year Lewis may be hard on his tyres and Jenson not, but that doesnt mean hes going to struggle with it as much as some people are suggesting, and pre 2010 talk is almost a carbon copy of this ongoing disscusion.