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[texasmr2]

Poor braking control can usually be seen by the cars behavior under braking but yes it is almost impossible to say if it is true so who knows? I just thought it was interesting.

[F1er]

I found this comment from a member on another forum who was recieving Tweet updates.

It's interesting hearing from the people actually there as their statements are not 'washed down' by some racing team's PR department. All the spectators who have some sort of idea of what racing cars are all about have stated the Reb Bull carries big speed into corners, the Mclaren has poor braking control and turns in poorly, Williams is looking good, MB has fantastic top speed and good brake balance but lacks turn in due to aero, Ferrari has a great mix of everything.

McLarens new radical design turned out to be sh** they're starting to look like amateurs !! I'm getting tired of their crap!

Lewis will be bummed after another playing catch up year!! waste of TALENT

[Jensonb]

I found this comment from a member on another forum who was recieving Tweet updates.

It's interesting hearing from the people actually there as their statements are not 'washed down' by some racing team's PR department. All the spectators who have some sort of idea of what racing cars are all about have stated the Reb Bull carries big speed into corners, the Mclaren has poor braking control and turns in poorly, Williams is looking good, MB has fantastic top speed and good brake balance but lacks turn in due to aero, Ferrari has a great mix of everything.

McLarens new radical design turned out to be sh** they're starting to look like amateurs !! I'm getting tired of their crap!

...You guys really are quick to panic aren't you?

Wait until Australia guys. Honestly, you'd think people would have learned by now.

[McLaren]

I found this comment from a member on another forum who was recieving Tweet updates.

It's interesting hearing from the people actually there as their statements are not 'washed down' by some racing team's PR department. All the spectators who have some sort of idea of what racing cars are all about have stated the Reb Bull carries big speed into corners, the Mclaren has poor braking control and turns in poorly, Williams is looking good, MB has fantastic top speed and good brake balance but lacks turn in due to aero, Ferrari has a great mix of everything.

McLarens new radical design turned out to be sh** they're starting to look like amateurs !! I'm getting tired of their crap!

...You guys really are quick to panic aren't you?

Wait until Australia guys. Honestly, you'd think people would have learned by now.

I know what you mean but McLaren are normally one to not show their hand.Not like them to be sand bagging.Maybe they are experimenting but I'm not so sure.Think the extra time before the first race might help though

[What's Burning?]

Poor braking control can usually be seen by the cars behavior under braking but yes it is almost impossible to say if it is true so who knows? I just thought it was interesting.

Much easier to feel it than to see it! But based on some of the comments from drivers as to how the tires are working and the propensity to easily marble off the line, you can't just make a comment like that as a spectator without it being just conjecture.

It is interesting, especially the part of how planted and fast a car looks around a well known turn. That's more telling that any lap time posted.

[F1er]

I found this comment from a member on another forum who was recieving Tweet updates.

It's interesting hearing from the people actually there as their statements are not 'washed down' by some racing team's PR department. All the spectators who have some sort of idea of what racing cars are all about have stated the Reb Bull carries big speed into corners, the Mclaren has poor braking control and turns in poorly, Williams is looking good, MB has fantastic top speed and good brake balance but lacks turn in due to aero, Ferrari has a great mix of everything.

McLarens new radical design turned out to be sh** they're starting to look like amateurs !! I'm getting tired of their crap!

...You guys really are quick to panic aren't you?

Wait until Australia guys. Honestly, you'd think people would have learned by now.

Learned?
Yes I have,Macca have not built what they thought they would,and are behind trying to fix their cockups!!
ATM
1rbr
2ferrari
3toro roso/william
5 maca

unless everyone else holds still and waits for maca to catch up.............I dont see anything good about the 26...............and I wont follow for last years crap "will bring updates next race" that sh** gets old quick.
they will fight for the occasional race here and there but for WCC/WDC
anything else than 1st is for me

[Jensonb]

Learned?
Yes I have,Macca have not built what they thought they would,and are behind trying to fix their cockups!!
ATM
1rbr
2ferrari
3toro roso/william
5 maca

unless everyone else holds still and waits for maca to catch up.............I dont see anything good about the 26...............and I wont follow for last years crap "will bring updates next race" that sh** gets old quick.
they will fight for the occasional race here and there but for WCC/WDC
anything else than 1st is for me

Dude, seriously, you're acting like they built the MP4-24 again, and we have no indication of that. They're one test behind their main rivals and their car is more radical, and on a different program. It is too early to call. Save your anguish for if they get to Australia and can't park it on the front two rows.

[f1ea]

Anybody's read James Allen's F1 Test analysis? Here it goes, its really interesting stuff.
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2011/02/f ... -thinking/

2010 Graph:

You can see the consistency of the lap times, how little they wear, in fact the trend is upwards, showing that as the fuel burns off the laps get faster. The tyres were so good the fuel effect was significantly greater than the tyre wear.

2011 Graph:

The trend is dramatically the other way, despite the car getting lighter as the fuel burns off and this is a graphic illustration of tyre degradation in action. It’s what the engineers and drivers are trying to find a solution to in the testing... Look at the steep drop off in performance in the final lap or two before a stop. It’s really dramatic.

General idea re. length of stints with the different compounds:

As for the difference between hard and soft tyres, look at Webber’s graph, the blue one, his second set was new soft tyres and the third set was new hard tyres – there’s quite a significant difference in the rate of drop off, I’m sure you’ll agree. The softs last around 12-14 laps the hards around 20-22 laps.

[Hammer278]

Learned?
Yes I have,Macca have not built what they thought they would,and are behind trying to fix their cockups!!
ATM
1rbr
2ferrari
3toro roso/william
5 maca

unless everyone else holds still and waits for maca to catch up.............I dont see anything good about the 26...............and I wont follow for last years crap "will bring updates next race" that sh** gets old quick.
they will fight for the occasional race here and there but for WCC/WDC
anything else than 1st is for me

Dude, seriously, you're acting like they built the MP4-24 again, and we have no indication of that. They're one test behind their main rivals and their car is more radical, and on a different program. It is too early to call. Save your anguish for if they get to Australia and can't park it on the front two rows.

Not only that but McLaren are normally quick to voice out their displeasure during the offseason. Don't forget, they are expected to win every year, they have massive sponsors just like the other top teams. If they keep quiet and act like everything is fine and dandy, and then turn out to look like a joke when the season starts, business-wise its very unethical as the sponsors are also watching their performance and have their expectations.

So far the comments have been mostly "all good according to schedule"....I don't think McLaren are struggling. Not the quickest maybe but there, thereabouts.

[darwin dali]

I found this comment from a member on another forum who was recieving Tweet updates.

It's interesting hearing from the people actually there as their statements are not 'washed down' by some racing team's PR department. All the spectators who have some sort of idea of what racing cars are all about have stated the Reb Bull carries big speed into corners, the Mclaren has poor braking control and turns in poorly, Williams is looking good, MB has fantastic top speed and good brake balance but lacks turn in due to aero, Ferrari has a great mix of everything.

McLarens new radical design turned out to be sh** they're starting to look like amateurs !! I'm getting tired of their crap!

...You guys really are quick to panic aren't you?

Wait until Australia guys. Honestly, you'd think people would have learned by now.

Learned?
Yes I have,Macca have not built what they thought they would,and are behind trying to fix their cockups!!
ATM
1rbr
2ferrari
3toro roso/william
5 maca

unless everyone else holds still and waits for maca to catch up.............I dont see anything good about the 26...............and I wont follow for last years crap "will bring updates next race" that sh** gets old quick.
they will fight for the occasional race here and there but for WCC/WDC
anything else than 1st is for me

Easy fellow - take care of your blood pressure or you'll be working on a coronary

[darwin dali]

Ferrari having completed almost five times as many kilometers of testing compared to McLaren? I'd be a tad worried about that alone.

[Robert12010]

i think yes that mclaren would have to done more laps, but there is still one more test, and a little more time in the wind tunnel now that australia is the first race and i perosnally think that mclaren are going start 3rd fastest behind ferrari and red bull, but remember this, mclaren didnt have the fastest car last year and was leading in mid summer!, admittly the upgrades from there didnt really work, and also there is never any gurantees red bull and ferrari still have to get the results

[What's Burning?]

Ferrari having completed almost five times as many kilometers of testing compared to McLaren? I'd be a tad worried about that alone.

All that testing and then a spark plug goes and costs your a victory. We'll just have to wait and see what the first two rows on the grid look like. Another MONTH of waiting....

[vlad]

All teams could have done a bunch of test laps like Ferrari, but they mainly got what they came for... THat should not be a reason for Ferrari to be the best team, on the contrary...

[darwin dali]

Ferrari having completed almost five times as many kilometers of testing compared to McLaren? I'd be a tad worried about that alone.

All that testing and then a spark plug goes and costs your a victory. We'll just have to wait and see what the first two rows on the grid look like. Another MONTH of waiting....

Or for Sennaville: 2,678,400 seconds