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[Robert12010]

Would be very epic if Kimi returned.

i doubt it will happen

[Hexagram]

Would be very epic if Kimi returned.

i doubt it will happen

Me too. He struggled badly in the WRC last year learning the ropes. Would have been a wasted year he doesn't compete in it this year.

[What's Burning?]

If Senna had resoundingly out qualified his team mates last year, we'd probably not questioned his shot at the Renault seat now. But he didn't.

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If Senna had resoundingly out qualified his team mates last year, we'd probably not questioned his shot at the Renault seat now. But he didn't.

[Gaz]

Image of the Kube's car from behind (how lucky was he!!!)-


Click on the video at this website to see an animated simulation of what they think happened.

Hes lucky to be alive after that

[Hexagram]

Image of the Kube's car from behind (how lucky was he!!!)-


Click on the video at this website to see an animated simulation of what they think happened.

Hes lucky to be alive after that

[Jabberwocky]

If Senna had resoundingly out qualified his team mates last year, we'd probably not questioned his shot at the Renault seat now. But he didn't.

we are assuming that HRT managed to provide an equal car to both drivers.

[What's Burning?]

If Senna had resoundingly out qualified his team mates last year, we'd probably not questioned his shot at the Renault seat now. But he didn't.

we are assuming that HRT managed to provide an equal car to both drivers.

Well if he does get this shot at Renault, he'll have to deliver pdq. The rookie season is over. I hope he does get a shot at the very least so show it during the testing.

[Hammer278]

Maybe they could let these 3 have a shootout, 5 laps each see who's fastest. Or something like that.

Personally I think its a waste of fuel and tyres as I know who'd trash the other two if I was Boullier.

[nish2280]

Maybe they could let these 3 have a shootout, 5 laps each see who's fastest. Or something like that.

Personally I think its a waste of fuel and tyres as I know who'd trash the other two if I was Boullier.

Though it would attract plenty of media attention. Might end up in some cash if they play their cards right.

[Hexagram]

Maybe they could let these 3 have a shootout, 5 laps each see who's fastest. Or something like that.

Personally I think its a waste of fuel and tyres as I know who'd trash the other two if I was Boullier.

I think Heidfeld would be the fastest in that situation. He will hit the ground running if you know what I mean.

[FRAFPDD]

Maybe they could let these 3 have a shootout, 5 laps each see who's fastest. Or something like that.

Personally I think its a waste of fuel and tyres as I know who'd trash the other two if I was Boullier.

And lo and behold you arent

[zurich_allan]

If Senna had resoundingly out qualified his team mates last year, we'd probably not questioned his shot at the Renault seat now. But he didn't.

we are assuming that HRT managed to provide an equal car to both drivers.

Don't know about equal car, but as I've already highlighted, they certainly didn't have equal personnel on the engineering side of things. Senna had an inexperienced race engineer, which for a rookie driver can prove (it has in the past) to be a disaster. The other side of the garage had a race enineer with a decade of experience in F1 at lower level teams - i.e. was used to exactly the environment that would have been at HRT. I've said before, as far as I can estimate, Senna may have been making up half a second to a second per lap against his various team-mates just to get an equal time as them in a better set-up car. Overdriving the car as a result and thus spinning / going off track more frequently than his team-mates because he was under pressure to beat them. Honestly - look back over the whole season and you'll see that everything I'm saying matches up with the pattern of his season...

I honestly think that not just a lot, but the majority of F1 fans simply don't understand the importance of the engineers in setting up a car to its optimum level. It drives me absolutely nuts!!

[SennaVille]

All this talk about F1 drivers taking it easy in the off-season is just beside the point and ridiculous. We can't wrap them in cotton wool, or sit them at home in their easy chair with a glass of iced tea, I can just imagine the conversation: Here you go adrenaline driven F1 driver! Your only excitement for the next three months is knitting booties for the babies in Africa. What if Kubica went ski-ing? Took his bike out off-road? Went hand-gliding? Dived into a pool? Jumped on a trampoline? Played ball with his nephew in the backyard and his nephew threw the ball too hard and it hit his head at just the wrong angle? Went rallying? Climbed a cliff?

The point I and others are trying to make is he was motor racing which is inherently a greater risk than anything you listed and the other point is 4 WEEKS before the start of the season!?!?!? I see what your saying but you certainly must see the point we are trying to make also?

I hope we see some new changes/rules setforth for drivers now.

I actually think trampolining poses the greatest risk to our off-season gang, just because so many of them are apt to be participating

Yeah, I do get what you're saying, tex. Of course rallying is way more risky than trampolining, but he is a race car driver and he gets his kicks how he gets his kicks. Which apparently, is not trampolining.

Who knew at the start of this week that I would use the word trampolining so often? Life sure is full of surprises

[scotty]

I can see why people are saying Kubica was stupid to go rallying, but hindsight is always 20/20 isn't it? That was a complete freak accident, pure bad luck - proved by the fact his co-driver walked off unscathed! The argument to ban drivers from other competition ironically would hold much more weight back in olden days when it was rife, as the cars are far, far, far safer now... but that is a moot point really. You don't see these kind of clauses applied in regular jobs, and after all it's just a job to the drivers at the end of the day, i think they should be allowed to have a free life outside F1.

Don't know about equal car, but as I've already highlighted, they certainly didn't have equal personnel on the engineering side of things. Senna had an inexperienced race engineer, which for a rookie driver can prove (it has in the past) to be a disaster. The other side of the garage had a race enineer with a decade of experience in F1 at lower level teams - i.e. was used to exactly the environment that would have been at HRT. I've said before, as far as I can estimate, Senna may have been making up half a second to a second per lap against his various team-mates just to get an equal time as them in a better set-up car. Overdriving the car as a result and thus spinning / going off track more frequently than his team-mates because he was under pressure to beat them. Honestly - look back over the whole season and you'll see that everything I'm saying matches up with the pattern of his season...

I honestly think that not just a lot, but the majority of F1 fans simply don't understand the importance of the engineers in setting up a car to its optimum level. It drives me absolutely nuts!!

Thanks for saving me a bunch of typing with that post, i completely concur. Blind leading the blind for him last season.


edit - NEWS: I just read that Heidfeld will test for Renault in Jerez...