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[Jensonb]

And I'd roll my eyes at him whinging about it too.

you're such a kidder... you'd bat your lashes at him, not roll your eyes.

Yeah, of course I would /sarcasm

[Robert12010]

I can just imagine Alonso throwing bananas out of his car at his opponents.

[F1er]

:wavey: Every driver has complained with Rosberg the latest!!!

He also admitted handling all the new systems was a real challenge.
"I learned how to handle the KERS for example with all the buttons and systems, it is very complicated for sure and it is going to take some time to get used to it.

It's a button. They've been fiddling with switches for almost two decades.

Yea,and how hard it must have been for man to go from the stone age to the bronze age to the internet age
You do realize we got a couple of 40+ drivers on the grid that might not be too keen on button pushing,and I dont mean Jenson!

[Jensonb]

:wavey: Every driver has complained with Rosberg the latest!!!

He also admitted handling all the new systems was a real challenge.
"I learned how to handle the KERS for example with all the buttons and systems, it is very complicated for sure and it is going to take some time to get used to it.

It's a button. They've been fiddling with switches for almost two decades.

Yea,and how hard it must have been for man to go from the stone age to the bronze age to the internet age
You do realize we got a couple of 40+ drivers on the grid that might not be too keen on button pushing,and I dont mean Jenson!

Which leads us neatly back to O velho rabugento, Rubens Barrichello

[f1ea]

Some tweaking to the rear wing regulations.... http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/39944.html

Seems the FIA itself is not sure what to do with it. Soon, to alleviate tasks on the driver, the rear wing will be remote controlled from the pits

[What's Burning?]

Some tweaking to the rear wing regulations.... http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/story/39944.html

Seems the FIA itself is not sure what to do with it. Soon, to alleviate tasks on the driver, the rear wing will be remote controlled from the pits

Not sure what that whole article adds other than the specifics of when they're going to begin measuring the time gap and the distance the wing will be available for. It's something I guess. This whole thing is just getting more and more wishy washy by the minute.

I just fear at this point that come November we'll be referring back to a controversial pass done early in the season because of a front wing rule that's completely morphed into something else 4 or 5 races into the season. That's not how I'd expect the pinnacle of motor sports to act, umm... let's just wing it and make it up as we go along.

[Jensonb]

Seems like someone said "active movable rear wing!", someone else said "Yes!" and they wrote it into the rules without bothering to plan it out in any way.

[Jensonb]

"We've added two more switches which are very important for lap time and also the feeling of the car so it's busy but by the time we get to the first race we're all going to be used to it and it will be fine and hopefully we'll be the team that has done our homework on it and we can arrive ready to perform and be more confident with the buttons and switches that we have."

Wisdom, at last.

[Hammer278]

The HILARITY continues:

The FIA gave teams more details about the operation of the mandatory moveable rear wings in 2011, and has already taken moves to negate advantages gained from the innovation.

Drivers have been experimenting with the overtaking aid, with observers able to visibly see the rear wing open up on the straight to stall the downforce before it is clicked back into place at the braking zone. It has been feared that if chasing drivers are allowed to press the rear wing button too often, overtaking will become commonplace and uninteresting.

As a result, the FIA has told teams that if the chasing car is within a certain time of his rival - say, one second - he will be allowed to activate the wing only within a 600-metre zone at the end of a straight.

These zones will reportedly be marked out with white lines, and Guardian correspondent Richard Williams reported that the one-second gap will be calculated at the corner before the designated straight.

"Further information, going into detail and the various scenarios still has to be clarified," said Ferrari's technical director Aldo Costa, adding that the wings for now will not be operated in the wet. "Then it will be a case of seeing how things go in the race to understand how to proceed," a hint the rules may be tweaked depending on the outcome of the initial races.

The early feedback from the drivers is that, combined with preparing and triggering KERS and watching for the rear-wing green light, their cockpit workload is increasingly unreasonable.

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What the heck are these fools trying? So what happens if the driver engages it a tenth before the 600m line, are you going to give him a drive through? They already have the pit white line to worry about, and don't forget your other rule about the drivers getting penalised if they get the car slightly outside the white lines on the side of the circuit!!

How about just making the team bosses play chess against each other, the winner will be granted 3 free passes on track, and the loser has to give out free DVD players to every other team boss.

I'm getting sick of these idiots running the sport.

[Jensonb]

The HILARITY continues:

The FIA gave teams more details about the operation of the mandatory moveable rear wings in 2011, and has already taken moves to negate advantages gained from the innovation.

Drivers have been experimenting with the overtaking aid, with observers able to visibly see the rear wing open up on the straight to stall the downforce before it is clicked back into place at the braking zone. It has been feared that if chasing drivers are allowed to press the rear wing button too often, overtaking will become commonplace and uninteresting.

As a result, the FIA has told teams that if the chasing car is within a certain time of his rival - say, one second - he will be allowed to activate the wing only within a 600-metre zone at the end of a straight.

These zones will reportedly be marked out with white lines, and Guardian correspondent Richard Williams reported that the one-second gap will be calculated at the corner before the designated straight.

"Further information, going into detail and the various scenarios still has to be clarified," said Ferrari's technical director Aldo Costa, adding that the wings for now will not be operated in the wet. "Then it will be a case of seeing how things go in the race to understand how to proceed," a hint the rules may be tweaked depending on the outcome of the initial races.

The early feedback from the drivers is that, combined with preparing and triggering KERS and watching for the rear-wing green light, their cockpit workload is increasingly unreasonable.

_______________________________________________

What the heck are these fools trying? So what happens if the driver engages it a tenth before the 600m line, are you going to give him a drive through? They already have the pit white line to worry about, and don't forget your other rule about the drivers getting penalised if they get the car slightly outside the white lines on the side of the circuit!!

How about just making the team bosses play chess against each other, the winner will be granted 3 free passes on track, and the loser has to give out free DVD players to every other team boss.

I'm getting sick of these idiots running the sport.

Well since the FiA Control the ECU, I'm assuming the button would simply not work outside of the 600M zone during the race.

[Robert12010]

The HILARITY continues:

The FIA gave teams more details about the operation of the mandatory moveable rear wings in 2011, and has already taken moves to negate advantages gained from the innovation.

Drivers have been experimenting with the overtaking aid, with observers able to visibly see the rear wing open up on the straight to stall the downforce before it is clicked back into place at the braking zone. It has been feared that if chasing drivers are allowed to press the rear wing button too often, overtaking will become commonplace and uninteresting.

As a result, the FIA has told teams that if the chasing car is within a certain time of his rival - say, one second - he will be allowed to activate the wing only within a 600-metre zone at the end of a straight.

These zones will reportedly be marked out with white lines, and Guardian correspondent Richard Williams reported that the one-second gap will be calculated at the corner before the designated straight.

"Further information, going into detail and the various scenarios still has to be clarified," said Ferrari's technical director Aldo Costa, adding that the wings for now will not be operated in the wet. "Then it will be a case of seeing how things go in the race to understand how to proceed," a hint the rules may be tweaked depending on the outcome of the initial races.

The early feedback from the drivers is that, combined with preparing and triggering KERS and watching for the rear-wing green light, their cockpit workload is increasingly unreasonable.

_______________________________________________

What the heck are these fools trying? So what happens if the driver engages it a tenth before the 600m line, are you going to give him a drive through? They already have the pit white line to worry about, and don't forget your other rule about the drivers getting penalised if they get the car slightly outside the white lines on the side of the circuit!!

How about just making the team bosses play chess against each other, the winner will be granted 3 free passes on track, and the loser has to give out free DVD players to every other team boss.

I'm getting sick of these idiots running the sport.

Well since the FiA Control the ECU, I'm assuming the button would simply not work outside of the 600M zone during the race.

[FRAFPDD]

"We've added two more switches which are very important for lap time and also the feeling of the car so it's busy but by the time we get to the first race we're all going to be used to it and it will be fine and hopefully we'll be the team that has done our homework on it and we can arrive ready to perform and be more confident with the buttons and switches that we have."

Wisdom, at last.

I agree, could play into Jensons hands aswell even if it is a slight handful, clever enough to be able to concentrate etc.

[texasmr2]

I'm getting sick of these idiots running the sport.

It's beyond tiresome now isn't it ?

[spankyham]

On another forum (fofassociation), a pretty respect poster (who attended the Wednesday press briefings in Valencia of Rosberg and Kubica) posted that both drivers said that the movable rear wing is awesome and much more powerful than KERS. The drivers also said that they need full concentration because the rear wing gives so much power that they will be upon the car in front in no time and if something were to happen infront the driver would not have time to react.

As I said, way back when this discussion started, the biggest danger of MRW is how well it will work. Rosberg and Kubica have confirmed it. They are worried about the dam closing speed.

A few things:-
1) the second placed car will simply wait till the last time down the main straight, push the magic MRW button, pass the lead car and win. Gee, that is going to be soooooo exciting. Wow! What skill! I can push a button, are we going to start fighting over who's favourite driver pushes buttons better?

2) The effect of this may well be the opposite to what was wanted. They want more overtaking, but why overtake when you know the car behind can do the same next time down the main straight. Just follow and do what I said in 1)

3) How can a car get away from a trailing car. Let consider this scenario. Car A is half a second a lap faster than car B. Keep in mind that through most of last year, at most races we had the 5 main contenders well within half a second of each other. And, remember, half a second a lap is a huge difference.

Back to the car A/B scenario. A is half a second a lap faster. Car B is within a second of car A at the last corner and uses the magic button down the straight. B decides not to pass. He closes as close as possible to A. A, has to open more than a one second gap, in less than a lap on B. He can't do it. A is the faster/better car, yet, even with half a second speed difference, he cannot get away from B. Now consider on the last lap, B does what I described in 1). So, B wins. Great result for F1. We reward the slower weaker car.

P1ss off this stupid implementation. Either take the MRW away completely, or, let the teams/drivers use it as they want.

[Hammer278]

Spanky, that's why they have come up with the latest regs 'only the last 600m at end of straight'. So the horror scenarios you listed down can't happen.