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[texasmr2]

Now all we need is for them to ban all the driving aids.......

That would be truelly awesome.

[Mikep99]

says you

but thats your opinion only

Rd finally you’re getting it. Yes it’s only just my opinion.

If you want to know where it’s formulated from:

Can you ever contemplate in your wildest dreams Ron in a similar relationship as Enzo & Giles
Look at the Ferrari pits during and after a race each and every race weekend.
Tell me any other team where the drivers refer to there job as a family.
Which team is number one favoured destination for “anyâ€

[Mikep99]

Now all we need is for them to ban all the driving aids.......

We are on a roll here RD

I agree again.

[Ron Dennis]

says you

but thats your opinion only

Rd finally you’re getting it. Yes it’s only just my opinion.

If you want to know where it’s formulated from:

Can you ever contemplate in your wildest dreams Ron in a similar relationship as Enzo & Giles
Look at the Ferrari pits during and after a race each and every race weekend.
Tell me any other team where the drivers refer to there job as a family.
Which team is number one favoured destination for “anyâ€

[Mikep99]

Woking Maranello - you speak english so it would sound nicer

La Bamba sounds much nicer than 'the goat'

RD its not only the sound it’s the aura & history surrounding it.

[bud]

RD its not only the sound it’s the aura & history surrounding it.

and yet youve probably never been to Maranello funny how you know about this aura and history! its all in your head dude!

To suggest that no other team has passion or a rich history is an insult! so go on keep insulting the likes of McLaren & Mercedes, Lotus, Tyrell, Brabham, Williams list goes on!!

if you like the sound of Latin names just add a vowel on the end - Wokingo

back on topic teams wouldnt have used traction control if it made the cars slower, and if you read last months issue of F1racing the article on Kimi was all about Ferrari's traction control and his finding it hard to adjust to it as it was a very good traction control system.

but in saying that i dont think the lap times will ulitmately change all that much, the good drivers have an inbuilt traction control

[texasmr2]

and yet youve probably never been to Maranello funny how you know about this aura and history! its all in your head dude!

bud I have never been to Maranello either but does that mean my passion and love for Ferrari should be any less ? Have you ever been to the McLaren factory? It seem's that people only want to berate Ferrari because as they say "no one like's a winner" and to dismiss what Ferrari mean's to F1 in general is a very narrow minded way of thinking.

This is not me on my Ferrari 'bandwagon' either it's just the truth no matter if you someone like's or not.

To suggest that no other team has passion or a rich history is an insult! so go on keep insulting the likes of McLaren & Mercedes, Lotus, Tyrell, Brabham, Williams list goes on!!

bud none of the team's you mentioned have the history in post WWII F1 racing like Ferrari has, it's not insulting, just true!

but in saying that i dont think the lap times will ulitmately change all that much, the good drivers have an inbuilt traction control

I agree with you there .

[bud]

No i havent been to Woking but i dont go around saying McLaren has an aura or they are the only team with Passion. Besides only if youre involved with the team, working within it will you know the passion you will feel it but to talk from the outside as a fan and say Ferrari are the ONLY team with passion is insulting.

Mercedes had post WWII history thus i put McLaren AND Mercedes they are a team now but they also have separate history's! and besides just because a team has 14 years more history does it make it any more passionate or what ever you Ferrari lambs like to bla bla baaa on about?

[vegas]

Spyker is the most passionate team cause I can feel there passion thru the TV. Its obvious you fools.

[darwin dali]

But if anyone will struggle, its Kimi, known as the lazy man himself, he was probaly the slowest to adapt to the new tyres, this could even be similiar

Strange statement.
He won the very first race of the season on those new tires...

[Mikep99]

and yet youve probably never been to Maranello funny how you know about this aura and history! its all in your head dude!

bud I have never been to Maranello either but does that mean my passion and love for Ferrari should be any less ? Have you ever been to the McLaren factory? It seem's that people only want to berate Ferrari because as they say "no one like's a winner" and to dismiss what Ferrari mean's to F1 in general is a very narrow minded way of thinking.

This is not me on my Ferrari 'bandwagon' either it's just the truth no matter if you someone like's or not.

To suggest that no other team has passion or a rich history is an insult! so go on keep insulting the likes of McLaren & Mercedes, Lotus, Tyrell, Brabham, Williams list goes on!!

bud none of the team's you mentioned have the history in post WWII F1 racing like Ferrari has, it's not insulting, just true!

but in saying that i dont think the lap times will ulitmately change all that much, the good drivers have an inbuilt traction control

I agree with you there .

tex - could not have said it any better.

bud - I said "that no other team will ever match" NOT "only team with"

[texasmr2]

True bud other team's have alot of passion although I disagree with your statement that "only if youre involved with the team, working within it will you know the passion you will feel". That's what make's Ferrari fan's different than the rest. Why do you feel such passion for McLaren?

Yes I agree that it is insulting to say that Ferrari is the only team with passion and I would never say that.

What is insulting though is comment's like "what ever you Ferrari lambs like to bla bla baaa on about?"
Why be so defensive and disrespectful of someone else's opinion and who they support? I can guarentee you that I can research the past 3 month's I have been a member and give you countless post regarding the opinion that McLaren is the greatest team ever and the disrespect we 'Ferrari Lamb's' take from the McLaren camp.

Enough said I dont want to turn this into 'our personal disagreement' I just say we 'agree to disagree" cool?

[bud]

That's what make's Ferrari fan's different than the rest. Why do you feel such passion for McLaren?

Ferrari fans different from the rest? what makes Ferrari fans passion for Ferrari greater than say mine for McLaren?

[texasmr2]

Nothing at all my friend we share equal passion's.

[McLaren Fan]

This is one of the reason why Ferrari is so loved & has that inbuilt passion in everything they do that no other team will ever match. (I can picture Ron Dennis right now)

Good first point on Gilles Villeneuve, however, I think your second dig at Ron Dennis is unfair, Enzo Ferrari was a right bar steward at times to his drivers and family, and his views on you could change like the wind.