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By vaptin
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Ferrari team principal Stefano Domenicali has admitted he considered quitting after a botched strategy at the 2010 Abu Dhabi Grand Prix cost Fernando Alonso a shot at the title.
Think he made the right decision to stay,

Also all this talk about changes and starting anew seems recurrent in Ferrari, wonder what 2011 will bring from them.
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That's disappointing; I expected this thread to say that he was quitting because of LDM constantly sticking his nose into Ferrari F1's business. :wink::twisted:
By vaptin
#232881
myownalias wrote:That's disappointing; I expected this thread to say that he was quitting because of LDM constantly sticking his nose into Ferrari F1's business. :wink::twisted:
That grates me too, although he said he got plenty of support from above.

I remember the shot of the Ferrari pitwall in Abu Dhabi showing their reaction as Alonso got third, most exuberant reaction? LDM. Coolest? Stefano's.
JackMaster wrote:I would rather hang Chris Dyer up on his thumbs for a couple of days or more.
Or get Brawn back,
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By FRAFPDD
#232898
I find it hard to swallow that a team principal should feel the need to resign, because a new driver to their team in his first season with them, just managed to lose the title to a car that was as dominant as moselys hookers were.

And christ it was one unforseeable strategy mistake, why is it Alonso lost it cause of his team and Lewis to be retarded immaturity? I remember jump starts in chinaand wet kerb clipping in spa for Fazza, unless we all didnt notice a whole season accounts to the drivers points.

This is all to show that the idea of resignation is stupid by the way, not a lewis vs alonso, its just a very good example to use, because Ferrari did not lose Alonso the title, a vastly superior car in the redbull and a few errors cost him it. Same with L dog, just his came late in season.
By vaptin
#232935
^ It might have been meant in the sense he just felt really bad about it, and felt he wanted to quit.

It was a low point, where you doubt yourself,

It was a pretty bad strategy call anyway.
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The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
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By FRAFPDD
#232943
JackMaster wrote:The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
Ive got one question that i genuinely dont know the answer to, but its crucial in forging my opinion on the matter,

Was Fernando beinh held up at all forseeable? Not" yeah if they spent 1346 years working out all possibilities" but was it forseeable, or a very bad case of luck?
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By texasmr2
#232947
JackMaster wrote:The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
WTF!!!
Clearly in everyones life they have made a strategy calls that did not reach fruition but to say Dyer should be fired is ludicrous at best. I guess you would have made the correct decision right since you portray yourself as such an expert? Its frickin racing man and not all strategies workout so the sooner you realize that the better off you will be.
By vaptin
#232964
FRAFPDD wrote:
JackMaster wrote:The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
Ive got one question that i genuinely dont know the answer to, but its crucial in forging my opinion on the matter,

Was Fernando beinh held up at all forseeable? Not" yeah if they spent 1346 years working out all possibilities" but was it forseeable, or a very bad case of luck?
Yep, we've seen it all year that faster cars just can't make their way past slower ones. We've also seen the tyres lasting longer than expected, no need to have pitted him so early.
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FRAFPDD wrote:
JackMaster wrote:The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
Ive got one question that i genuinely dont know the answer to, but its crucial in forging my opinion on the matter,

Was Fernando beinh held up at all forseeable? Not" yeah if they spent 1346 years working out all possibilities" but was it forseeable, or a very bad case of luck?
Of course there is the possibility that it was a simple (an enormous) mistake. You can’t ever be 100% sure about anything. But it was so easy and the strategist so expert, that I don’t give much odds. But I can be wrong, for sure. Anyway, how many people have been fired in other fields for committing such an easy and costly mistake? I think that a lot.
#232983
vaptin wrote:
FRAFPDD wrote:
JackMaster wrote:The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
Ive got one question that i genuinely dont know the answer to, but its crucial in forging my opinion on the matter,

Was Fernando beinh held up at all forseeable? Not" yeah if they spent 1346 years working out all possibilities" but was it forseeable, or a very bad case of luck?
Yep, we've seen it all year that faster cars just can't make their way past slower ones. We've also seen the tyres lasting longer than expected, no need to have pitted him so early.
Yes, this is absolutely the point; all the previous experiences this same season indicated clearly DON’T STOP. Written in big and luminous letters.
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By FRAFPDD
#232989
You know vaptin and jack you could have just answered yes and no....i still dont know. But i do know that saking Chris Dyer and or resigning Stefano would be an outrageous move for something so small in a wider scheme of things, remember it was Fernandos team that got him 7 points in Germany.
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By FRAFPDD
#232990
texasmr2 wrote:
JackMaster wrote:The fact is that being third in Q3 at Abu Dhabi, Alonso had won the WDC unless he broke. Most of you know what I believe about the race. No need to repeat it, but Chris Dyer, not Stefano, should have been fired. For the size of his “mistake” and just in case that it wasn’t a mistake.
Alonso was there when it most counted and Lewis wasn’t and some of the Lewis mistakes at the end of the season were unbelievable, that’s for me the difference. And if we put ourselves to analyze the whole season, I also remember Valencia.
WTF!!!
Clearly in everyones life they have made a strategy calls that did not reach fruition but to say Dyer should be fired is ludicrous at best. I guess you would have made the correct decision right since you portray yourself as such an expert? Its frickin racing man and not all strategies workout so the sooner you realize that the better off you will be.
I feel like balancing out the amount of times you tell me it so: CALM DOWN! :hehe::D
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