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[spankyham]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

[F1er]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

When Ferrari talks McLaren are right there with them! LDM talks breakaway,Ron says Bernie is a thief! I'm 100% sure that if SF goes so does Macca right behind!
Formula1 is Ferrari and McLaren! The rest are irrelevant!

[myownalias]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

When Ferrari talks McLaren are right there with them! LDM talks breakaway,Ron says Bernie is a thief! I'm 100% sure that if SF goes so does Macca right behind!
Formula1 is Ferrari and McLaren! The rest are irrelevant!

That's a sweeping statement! So the newly crowned world driver and constructor champions are irrelevant? Mercedes irrelevant? I bet Ross Brawn and Norbert Haug would have something to say about that, yes Ferrari and McLaren are the longest serving teams but there are notable other names, Williams, Renault, Mercedes and Red Bull!

The rest are pretty irrelevant really, the also rans.

[F1er]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

When Ferrari talks McLaren are right there with them! LDM talks breakaway,Ron says Bernie is a thief! I'm 100% sure that if SF goes so does Macca right behind!
Formula1 is Ferrari and McLaren! The rest are irrelevant!

That's a sweeping statement! So the newly crowned world driver and constructor champions are irrelevant? Mercedes irrelevant? I bet Ross Brawn and Norbert Haug would have something to say about that, yes Ferrari and McLaren are the longest serving teams but there are notable other names, Williams, Renault, Mercedes and Red Bull!

The rest are pretty irrelevant really, the also rans.

SF & Macca probably have 60-75 % of total F1 fans! So yea the rest dont matter! If there was a breakaway the current f1 would die without the two,and whatever series SF&Macca start would flourish big time

[Robert12010]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

When Ferrari talks McLaren are right there with them! LDM talks breakaway,Ron says Bernie is a thief! I'm 100% sure that if SF goes so does Macca right behind!
Formula1 is Ferrari and McLaren! The rest are irrelevant!

That's a sweeping statement! So the newly crowned world driver and constructor champions are irrelevant? Mercedes irrelevant? I bet Ross Brawn and Norbert Haug would have something to say about that, yes Ferrari and McLaren are the longest serving teams but there are notable other names, Williams, Renault, Mercedes and Red Bull!

The rest are pretty irrelevant really, the also rans.

SF & Macca probably have 60-75 % of total F1 fans! So yea the rest dont matter! If there was a breakaway the current f1 would die without the two,and whatever series SF&Macca start would flourish big time

well you say that and when i went to silverstone, i even seen someone wearing a virgin t shirt"! but i do agree most f1 fans are ferrari and mclaren but not all of them

[F1er]

company points ch rw poles fl pod entr qual % class %
1 Ferrari 5181.3 (5337. 22 215 201 216 645 1767 1739 (98.4%) 1213 (68.6%)
2 McLaren 3973.5 (3569.5) 9 162 144 132 432 1342 1314 (97.9%) 882 (65.7%)
3 Williams 2678.0 (2700.0) 9 113 125 130 298 1228 1198 (97.6%) 782 (63.7%)


Williams (was) past tense) a big team! They havent been anywhere near the top for too long,so I stick to my statement!

[F1er]

You mean you saw people wearing these???????????

[FRAFPDD]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

When Ferrari talks McLaren are right there with them! LDM talks breakaway,Ron says Bernie is a thief! I'm 100% sure that if SF goes so does Macca right behind!
Formula1 is Ferrari and McLaren! The rest are irrelevant!

That's a sweeping statement! So the newly crowned world driver and constructor champions are irrelevant? Mercedes irrelevant? I bet Ross Brawn and Norbert Haug would have something to say about that, yes Ferrari and McLaren are the longest serving teams but there are notable other names, Williams, Renault, Mercedes and Red Bull!

The rest are pretty irrelevant really, the also rans.

SF & Macca probably have 60-75 % of total F1 fans! So yea the rest dont matter! If there was a breakaway the current f1 would die without the two,and whatever series SF&Macca start would flourish big time

What an idiotic post, shame on you myownalias for even agreeing partially "The rest are pretty Irrelevant really, the also rans", please someone tell me im not the only one annoyed with the arrogance of this attitude? All teams are equal in respect from me, a true F1 fan. I dont care what drivers you have, your funding, your history or your fanbase, you are an F1 team and you matter as much as any other.

[Robert12010]

You mean you saw people wearing these???????????

umm not quite

[racechick]

I wish they'd broken away when they had the chance. Macca and Ferrari are worth millions of times more than Bernie. Benie is nothing without them. Go for it boys, live dangerously, be radical.

[texasmr2]

I would have to change my Depend's if it happens so just incase I baught more !!

[myownalias]

What an idiotic post, shame on you myownalias for even agreeing partially "The rest are pretty Irrelevant really, the also rans", please someone tell me im not the only one annoyed with the arrogance of this attitude? All teams are equal in respect from me, a true F1 fan. I dont care what drivers you have, your funding, your history or your fanbase, you are an F1 team and you matter as much as any other.

I'm sorry you don't agree, but differences of opinion is what makes the world go around!

All teams are not equal, if all teams were equal they all have the same equipment and same chance to win races and champions; that is not the case!!!

I admire your ideals but in the real world, would anyone miss Virgin, Lotus, HRT or even Toro Rosso or Force India for that matter if they disappeared over the winter?

Has anyone missed Honda, Toyota or BMW over the past two seasons? Personally I haven't even noticed their absence!

[Robert12010]

What an idiotic post, shame on you myownalias for even agreeing partially "The rest are pretty Irrelevant really, the also rans", please someone tell me im not the only one annoyed with the arrogance of this attitude? All teams are equal in respect from me, a true F1 fan. I dont care what drivers you have, your funding, your history or your fanbase, you are an F1 team and you matter as much as any other.

I'm sorry you don't agree, but differences of opinion is what makes the world go around!

All teams are not equal, if all teams were equal they all have the same equipment and same chance to win races and champions; that is not the case!!!

I admire your ideals but in the real world, would anyone miss Virgin, Lotus, HRT or even Toro Rosso or Force India for that matter if they disappeared over the winter?

Has anyone missed Honda, Toyota or BMW over the past two seasons? Personally I haven't even noticed their absence!

well i think that lotus did good for their for first season!, yes toro rosso probaly wouldnt be massively missed but they are midfield competition for teams like lotus, force india has flashes of up and down form this year, sutil came into his own this year, but i wouldnt miss hrt or virgin

[spankyham]

Most 5 year olds could work out that all teams aren't the same in terms of performance and popularity. The old 80/20 rule would probably be about right in terms of teams that would/wouldn't be missed.

That said, a teams popularity has nothing to do with the teams democratic equality. In FOTA each team has one vote - as it should be. LDM/Ferrari made that clear when they gave their support to the majority view of the teams on the new (stupid) engine specs for 2013 - even though they were very opposed to it.

[What's Burning?]

Did I read this right??

Let's be serious here; Ferrari need F1 as much as F1 needs Ferrari, a split will be detrimental to both sides, it's a lose/lose situation in my opinion!

Yeah baby, come on over to the "dark red" side

When Ferrari talks McLaren are right there with them! LDM talks breakaway,Ron says Bernie is a thief! I'm 100% sure that if SF goes so does Macca right behind!
Formula1 is Ferrari and McLaren! The rest are irrelevant!

That's a sweeping statement! So the newly crowned world driver and constructor champions are irrelevant? Mercedes irrelevant? I bet Ross Brawn and Norbert Haug would have something to say about that, yes Ferrari and McLaren are the longest serving teams but there are notable other names, Williams, Renault, Mercedes and Red Bull!

The rest are pretty irrelevant really, the also rans.

SF & Macca probably have 60-75 % of total F1 fans! So yea the rest dont matter! If there was a breakaway the current f1 would die without the two,and whatever series SF&Macca start would flourish big time

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