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[spankyham]

LDM has again raised the prospect of a breakaway series.

This is his second such public statement and, along with the recent Ron Dennis statement, this really adds weight to the FOTA push for a bigger share of the pie for the teams. Personally I think that's a good thing, although I really think LDM is completely wrong wanting to keep Bernie in the picture.

I love LDM's comments about the new engines - a ray of hope I believe.

F1 : Luca di Montezemolo - Sport could survive without the Formula 1 name
Monday, 20 December 2010 08:26

Luca di Montezemolo thinks Formula One could survive without its famous trademark name.

The sport's Chief Executive Bernie Ecclestone dismissed as "complete nonsense" the Ferrari President's latest threat of a team led series breakaway.

But Montezemolo, who in 2009 led the revolt against departed FIA President Max Mosley's budget cap plans, told international reporters last week that Formula 1 is unlikely to proceed unchanged when the current Concorde Agreement expires in 2012.

"We need to think about what to do," the Italian is quoted by Germany's Auto Motor und Sport. "It can not go on as it is now."

Referring to the possibility of a breakaway championship, Montezemolo said: "Do we need the name Formula One? I believe we could go on with a different one."

"We could continue with (owners) CVC, but only with better financial conditions."

"Or the teams start their own company and we give Bernie the Presidency and we think of new and modern methods for marketing. We would do it along the lines of the NBA."

Montezemolo said he sees Ecclestone as central to Formula 1's new format because of his "passion" for "racing and not the stock market".

Montezemolo does not hide his criticism of the sport's current governing FIA. "It cannot be that we give up everything that made our sport for the sake of costs," he said.

"Formula 1 is about extreme innovation and technology."

Specifically on the 1.6 litre four cylinder engines to debut in 2013, he admitted: "I can't get used to it. It's not for a sport in which we once had 12 cylinder engines."

"Ferrari will not stand in the way, but we are saying very clearly that we are not happy about it."

[texasmr2]

Interesting and I like his mention of innovation,technology and 12 cylinder engines.

[F1er]

He is right!!!!!!!!!

[spankyham]

Interesting and I like his mention of innovation,technology and 12 cylinder engines.

It's almost funny that we have to congratulate someone for finally mentioning innovation and technology in conjunction with F1.

[texasmr2]

Interesting and I like his mention of innovation,technology and 12 cylinder engines.

It's almost funny that we have to congratulate someone for finally mentioning innovation and technology in conjunction with F1.

I know very odd indeed at supposedly the pinnacle of motorsports.

[myownalias]

More Ferrari propaganda, nothing we haven't heard before; I challenge you LDM; create a rival series and make it a success; talk is cheap! This is the third time Ferrari have threatened to leave F1, stop talking about it and do it. But beware we could end up with the IRL/Cart situation, the sum of it's parts are no greater than the whole!

It not even like I disagree with some of LDM's comments, I'm fed up of the threats to leave the sport in a effort to get his own way! You imagine if Manchester United suddenly threatened to leave the Premiership because they wanted an extra ten minutes of play at the end of the game because they were behind? The FA would show them the door!

[texasmr2]

Yes the talk of breakaway's is so rediculous, put up or shut up. The sport imho would never be the same if that happened and would be just as you mentioned another version of the IRL/CART fiasco were we got a watered down version of a once great series.

[bud]

Times are a changing. We cant have 12cyl engines for ever, infact we cant have petrol internal combustion engines for ever!

[F1er]

Yea right

Breaking News!

In order to please Green Peace or whatever Formula1 is going Electric! With this latest move they will save money on petrol (but waste millions changing the technology)
January 4 2014

One year after Audi powered car wins both titles!

[texasmr2]

One year after Audi powered car wins both titles!

Well thanks for ruining the anticipation of the 2014 season !

[Robert12010]

well i dont think that ferrari are trying to breakaway as such, but i think LDM is speaking on behalf of FOTA, who have been long in a battle with bernie and cvc over the amount of money they recieve, but you dont want a situation where the teams are so dominant that they have say over everything, you want balance and i believe that is what they are after at the end of the day!

[FRAFPDD]

More Ferrari propaganda, nothing we haven't heard before; I challenge you LDM; create a rival series and make it a success; talk is cheap! This is the third time Ferrari have threatened to leave F1, stop talking about it and do it. But beware we could end up with the IRL/Cart situation, the sum of it's parts are no greater than the whole!

It not even like I disagree with some of LDM's comments, I'm fed up of the threats to leave the sport in a effort to get his own way! You imagine if Manchester United suddenly threatened to leave the Premiership because they wanted an extra ten minutes of play at the end of the game because they were behind? The FA would show them the door!

word for word what id of wrote, LDM has some good ideas, but no one, nothing, no one is bigger then F1, id love to see him even attempt to rival the F1 brand.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

LDM knows the truth of it. That F1 reached the pinnacle of motor sports by promoting speed, danger, glamour and spectacle. That a change to promoting the welfare of puppies and kittens and orphans in Sudan can only squander its birthright and lead it down a path where Ferrari dare not follow.

Ferrari's road cars must shape their racing cars, not the other way round. A subtle point that many overlook is that Ferrari do not advertise. No radio, no telly, no newspapers, no magazines, no hoardings/billboards. Not a single centissimo. They choose instead to spend half a billion Euros annually campaigning two F1 cars. Ferrari's relationship to F1 (and LDM's protestations) only can be understood in light of this fact.

Times are a changing. We cant have 12cyl engines for ever, infact we cant have petrol internal combustion engines for ever!

So saith the Right Reverend Malthus.

[What's Burning?]

LDM knows the truth of it. That F1 reached the pinnacle of motor sports by promoting speed, danger, glamour and spectacle. That a change to promoting the welfare of puppies and kittens and orphans in Sudan can only squander its birthright and lead it down a path where Ferrari dare not follow.

Ferrari's road cars must shape their racing cars, not the other way round. A subtle point that many overlook is that Ferrari do not advertise. No radio, no telly, no newspapers, no magazines, no hoardings/billboards. Not a single centissimo. They choose instead to spend half a billion Euros annually campaigning two F1 cars. Ferrari's relationship to F1 (and LDM's protestations) only can be understood in light of this fact.

Times are a changing. We cant have 12cyl engines for ever, infact we cant have petrol internal combustion engines for ever!

So saith the Right Reverend Malthus.

I've never missed that subtle point about their lack of advertising... racing is their advertising, but the problem isn't Ferrari and the desire to build cars that live to the expectations of yesteryear. Racing is meaningless unless you can sell cars because of it, and Ferrari is trying to be a bulwark against the onslaught of smaller cheaper since it doesn't fit thier image... their advertising if you will.

But you can't tell me that innovation can't be had with a 4 cylinder turbo diesel, yeah it doesn't sound glamorous, but you have exciting racing a dammed pine wood derby car. The problem Ferrari has it that kind of racing doesn't serve their product offering.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

LDM knows the truth of it. That F1 reached the pinnacle of motor sports by promoting speed, danger, glamour and spectacle. That a change to promoting the welfare of puppies and kittens and orphans in Sudan can only squander its birthright and lead it down a path where Ferrari dare not follow.

Ferrari's road cars must shape their racing cars, not the other way round. A subtle point that many overlook is that Ferrari do not advertise. No radio, no telly, no newspapers, no magazines, no hoardings/billboards. Not a single centissimo. They choose instead to spend half a billion Euros annually campaigning two F1 cars. Ferrari's relationship to F1 (and LDM's protestations) only can be understood in light of this fact.

Times are a changing. We cant have 12cyl engines for ever, infact we cant have petrol internal combustion engines for ever!

So saith the Right Reverend Malthus.

I've never missed that subtle point about their lack of advertising... racing is their advertising, but the problem isn't Ferrari and the desire to build cars that live to the expectations of yesteryear. Racing is meaningless unless you can sell cars because of it, and Ferrari is trying to be a bulwark against the onslaught of smaller cheaper since it doesn't fit thier image... their advertising if you will.

But you can't tell me that innovation can't be had with a 4 cylinder turbo diesel, yeah it doesn't sound glamorous, but you have exciting racing a dammed pine wood derby car. The problem Ferrari has it that kind of racing doesn't serve their product offering.

I've seen exciting sand crab races, too, but I don't support F1 switching to crab power. Ferrari and F1 grew up together. In many respects, their histories and their fates are intertwined. This gives Ferrari to feel they are the true and proper shepherd of the sport, the "keeper of the faith," as it were.

I happen to agree.