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[texasmr2]

Would the real Team Lotus please standup!

[scotty]

Would the real Team Lotus please standup!

LMAO cause several lines in that song are really appropriate...

I can see this whole farce at least providing amusing puns to get us through the off season!

[Jabberwocky]

Team Lotus name is owned by Tony Fernandez (spl)

[scotty]

Team Lotus name is owned by Tony Fernandez (spl)

Okay, i think i have gotten my head round it a bit. Maybe.

Team Lotus, and the team that raced as Lotus last year, are/were only Lotus by name with no affiliation to Proton at all? (I am aware that Fernandes' team recently purchased the name rights for Team Lotus).

For example, it's like if i came up with this F1 team and called it 'Team McLaren', or something... it's essentially the same but technically it isn't.

I think the more thought i put into this, the more confusing it all becomes.

[texasmr2]

Yes very confusing indeed so I just simplified my support. I support Team Lotus for the simple fact they are based in Norfolk the hallowed ground of Lotus and I'll support Lotus Renault mainly because I like RK and that daym nose emblem is so appealing. Simple and unusual I know but it works for me .

[The_Stig_Money]

The old Renualt team should be said with a french accent

The 2010 Lotus team can be spoken normally

[Robert12010]

So to get it straight in my head:-

Lotus Renault - Renault

and

Team Lotus - Renault

correct sir

[Jabberwocky]

Team Lotus name is owned by Tony Fernandez (spl)

Okay, i think i have gotten my head round it a bit. Maybe.

Team Lotus, and the team that raced as Lotus last year, are/were only Lotus by name with no affiliation to Proton at all? (I am aware that Fernandes' team recently purchased the name rights for Team Lotus).

For example, it's like if i came up with this F1 team and called it 'Team McLaren', or something... it's essentially the same but technically it isn't.

I think the more thought i put into this, the more confusing it all becomes.

Tony Fernandez team raced last year, by buying a licence from Group Lotus (The road car manufacturer owned by Proton) to use the name Lotus Racing in 2010.

Tony then bought the name Team Lotus from David Hunt (James Hunts brother)

This is where the argument starts. Proton say they bought the rights and the company Group Lotus. However David Hunt and Tony Fernandez say that when Proton bought Group Lotus they did not buy the Team Lotus.

Colin Chapman had 2 companys Group Lotus that built road cars, and Team Lotus that built race cars.

Now Proton/Group Lotus have bought into Renault F1 and are going to be the title sponsor for them. So they have become Lotus Renault. In the same way that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Team, Vodafone is the title sponsor.

[Robert12010]

Team Lotus name is owned by Tony Fernandez (spl)

Okay, i think i have gotten my head round it a bit. Maybe.

Team Lotus, and the team that raced as Lotus last year, are/were only Lotus by name with no affiliation to Proton at all? (I am aware that Fernandes' team recently purchased the name rights for Team Lotus).

For example, it's like if i came up with this F1 team and called it 'Team McLaren', or something... it's essentially the same but technically it isn't.

I think the more thought i put into this, the more confusing it all becomes.

Tony Fernandez team raced last year, by buying a licence from Group Lotus (The road car manufacturer owned by Proton) to use the name Lotus Racing in 2010.

Tony then bought the name Team Lotus from David Hunt (James Hunts brother)

This is where the argument starts. Proton say they bought the rights and the company Group Lotus. However David Hunt and Tony Fernandez say that when Proton bought Group Lotus they did not buy the Team Lotus.

Colin Chapman had 2 companys Group Lotus that built road cars, and Team Lotus that built race cars.

Now Proton/Group Lotus have bought into Renault F1 and are going to be the title sponsor for them. So they have become Lotus Renault. In the same way that Vodafone McLaren Mercedes Team, Vodafone is the title sponsor.

i just dont get group lotus's problem, fernandes bought the name, so live with it!

[Jabberwocky]

I don't see what Group Lotus' problem is with free advertisement. If anything this bickering is weakening the brand.

[Robert12010]

I don't see what Group Lotus' problem is with free advertisement. If anything this bickering is weakening the brand.

sponsors and investors wont want this mess

[racechick]

My head hurts!! Ok two lotus names. Gold and black cars to die for-my favourite ever cars . But four of them on the grid???, All gold and black and all called lotus. But really they might be renault I do know a bit about F1, heaven help the more casual fan who tunes in now and then

[Robert12010]

My head hurts!! Ok two lotus names. Gold and black cars to die for-my favourite ever cars . But four of them on the grid???, All gold and black and all called lotus. But really they might be renault I do know a bit about F1, heaven help the more casual fan who tunes in now and then

calling heaven, its god how i can help?

uh yeah we have two lotus renault teams with the same livery and we all tried confused.com too could you please help

[darwin dali]

I think this is all fodder for new conspiracy theories to keep us entertained through the off-season and keep Jack Master on his toes

[What's Burning?]

oy vey.