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[vaptin]

As I said, more chance of injuring ones self in an automobile accident than doing some fitness training on a cycle be it on a trail or full on mountain biking.

Still people need to stop making judgement, for all you know he was riding in his front yard when the friend came off...

It's fun to speculate, yeah best not to take it too seriously, same goes for most on this forum. Of course none of us have the knowledge, but like I said to tex once, a lot of stuff we talk about on f1 is only based on small amounts of the picture.

Mind you, one could argue a recreational activity can be reasonably dropped, whereas getting to and from the race is required.

Still, surely the bigger issue is him not telling Horner?

[bud]

I guess he was worried it would give them an excuse to pull him out of the seat to recuperate then have no worries but to go all out for Seb.

[vaptin]

I guess he was worried it would give them an excuse to pull him out of the seat to recuperate then have no worries but to go all out for Seb.

Indeed, it must be something to do with him worried that it'll mean Vettel would be favoured wouldn't it? Obviously over any extra help the team could provide.

[Fred_C_Dobbs]

One has to wonder how Webber would have fared with the Australia flip/crash if he'd had the munged shoulder then. Then again, in the aftermath, he could have feigned innocence and the medical chaps would have assumed it was a new injury.

[Fact Man]

Australian Mark Webber has defended his silence over his broken shoulder while chasing this year's Formula One championship, saying his Red Bull team had no need to know about it.
The 34-year-old revealed in a book published in Australia this month that he fractured his shoulder falling off a mountain bike just before the Japanese Grand Prix while he was leading the standings.

The driver, who ended up third overall, said he had told only his physio and the FIA doctor about the injury that he carried through the final four races.

"A little bit of information can be a dangerous thing," he said on his website in response to media reports this week.

"I came off a mountain bike while training between the races in Singapore and Japan, and an x-ray revealed a small fracture to my right shoulder. I was very confident it wouldn't affect my performance in the car, which is why I didn't tell anyone.

"There was no need. The shoulder wasn't causing me a problem, so there was no need to talk about it to anyone," added the Australian, who finished second in two of the last four races behind team mate and eventual champion Sebastian Vettel.

"If I'd had any issues with it in the car, then of course I would have told the team.

"But that wasn't the case. I've never missed a Grand Prix but of course if I couldn't drive the car a) safely and b) on the limit, I would have notified the team."

Red Bull team boss Christian Horner said on Monday he would have wanted to know.

"It is obviously disappointing Mark said nothing," he said at an awards ceremony. "It was an injury that did not appear to have any effect on his performance but all the same it would have been nice to know about it."

It was not the first time Webber has hidden an injury from the team.

In late 2008, when he broke his leg in a mountain bike accident, he neglected to tell the team that he had also broken his shoulder.

The Australian complained several times this season that he felt the team were emotionally favouring Vettel, describing himself as a 'number two' and his title challenge as 'inconvenient' for the Austrian-owned team.

The latest injury came at a crucial part of the season and at a time when Webber was urging Red Bull to put their weight behind him rather than Vettel, who was behind him in the standings.

Webber said he had not undergone any operation since the end of the season and the shoulder break was not the reason why he had missed the post-season tyre test in Abu Dhabi.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/08122010/ ... lence.html

[The Ram]

Didn't take treacherous terrain to bring this rider down, sorry I could not help myself !

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Also you aswell as I, well maybe not as much as I, should know the terrain could be as flat as the Salt Flats and there will still serious injuries. The bad thing about MW's two fractures is that only time, and alot of it, will only heal his fractures.

Well from the story, it can be inferred that he was either riding on some mountain trail or if he was on flat ground he was dumb enough to ride directly behind the back wheel of his friends bike like what he does to other drivers in F1 all the time...

I mean lets face it, the man is a crasher. Basically Windows 95 personified.

[texasmr2]

Well from the story, it can be inferred that he was either riding on some mountain trail.

A Sherlock Holmes you are .

or if he was on flat ground he was dumb enough to ride directly behind the back wheel of his friends bike like what he does to other drivers in F1 all the time... .

Your fingers type faster than your brain can comprehend what they are typing apparently !!

I mean lets face it, the man is a crasher. Basically Windows 95 personified.

The playground needs more sand so run off and play and let the adults have some time together for mature conversations .

[What's Burning?]

I just read the whole article. This is interesting to hear but I think it has more to do with selling books than with an meaningful effect on performance.

First of all the thing that bothers me in the article is that THERE IS NOT SHOULDER BONE!!!! You have clavicle you got your humerus, the scapula... so I'd like something more specific.

Secondly, people get hairline fractures all the time, they hurt, they may be sore or bother, but they are not debilitating, there are lots of these types of fractures that you can't do anything about. Like a fractured rib or something. There's also no pain killer restriction or crap like that in F1, so he could have drugged away with pain killers all he wanted, he probably did.

Lastly the hairline really would have been at it's worst a week or two but really healed quite a bit by the time he got to Brazil and Abu Dhabi.

So interesting, yes but that it cost him a WDC I'm not buying that. In any case, more power to Mark, that he's out there enjoying life when his day job would be more enjoyment that we mere mortals would see in a lifetime.

[The Ram]

Well from the story, it can be inferred that he was either riding on some mountain trail.

A Sherlock Holmes you are .

or if he was on flat ground he was dumb enough to ride directly behind the back wheel of his friends bike like what he does to other drivers in F1 all the time... .

Your fingers type faster than your brain can comprehend what they are typing apparently !!

I mean lets face it, the man is a crasher. Basically Windows 95 personified.

The playground needs more sand so run off and play and let the adults have some time together for mature conversations .

No sense of humour? You know who hard it was to come up with that crash like windows 95 joke? Even Mark's own mother would laugh at that one.

[texasmr2]

No sense of humour? You know who hard it was to come up with that crash like windows 95 joke? Even Mark's own mother would laugh at that one.

Admittedly that was a good one .

[Hansy]

Well from the story, it can be inferred that he was either riding on some mountain trail.

A Sherlock Holmes you are .

or if he was on flat ground he was dumb enough to ride directly behind the back wheel of his friends bike like what he does to other drivers in F1 all the time... .

Your fingers type faster than your brain can comprehend what they are typing apparently !!

I mean lets face it, the man is a crasher. Basically Windows 95 personified.

The playground needs more sand so run off and play and let the adults have some time together for mature conversations .

No sense of humour? You know who hard it was to come up with that crash like windows 95 joke? Even Mark's own mother would laugh at that one.

It would be funnier if you used WIndows Millenium, 95 wasn't that bad

[darwin dali]

Well from the story, it can be inferred that he was either riding on some mountain trail.

A Sherlock Holmes you are .

or if he was on flat ground he was dumb enough to ride directly behind the back wheel of his friends bike like what he does to other drivers in F1 all the time... .

Your fingers type faster than your brain can comprehend what they are typing apparently !!

I mean lets face it, the man is a crasher. Basically Windows 95 personified.

The playground needs more sand so run off and play and let the adults have some time together for mature conversations .

No sense of humour? You know who hard it was to come up with that crash like windows 95 joke? Even Mark's own mother would laugh at that one.

It would be funnier if you used WIndows Millenium, 95 wasn't that bad

Brown poo, green poo, black poo, speckled shite-shite remains poo!

[What's Burning?]

Brown poo, green poo, black poo, speckled shite-shite remains poo!

um... what bathroom do you use?!?!

[darwin dali]

Brown poo, green poo, black poo, speckled shite-shite remains poo!

um... what bathroom do you use?!?!

I use iBath

[F1FanUSA]

And even if he really did break his shoulder that just makes him even more of a douchebag. Here in America professional athletes are strictly forbidden to engage in outside sporting events or activities that might lead to injury, during the off season let alone during the active year!! That is put right in their contract. The fact that he rode a mountain bike at all during a race year is crazy!! That should be grounds for loss of pay and possible dismissal from the team!
Secondly that he only tells the world about this in a book he is trying to sell is so slimy and underhanded. Are you kidding me? Mark Webber is a total, utter, slimy, douche!!

Come on, Senna used to go jet skiing all the time, Raikkonen was always doing the odd snow mobile race and Schuey did heaps of karting events. Lets not go the American way and wrap our athletes up in corporate cotton wool, having them unable to sign autographs cause its not printed on one of their sponsors cards like in Jerry Macguire. Mark Webber is a 34 year old man who has earned his right to enjoy life so good on him for doing that. I've met him a enough times to say he's a top bloke who doesn't deserve being called a douche. For me it just goes to show how tough we Aussies are.

In my opinion all F1 drivers should be allowed to race in touring car events or the like, espescially the younger drivers who get limited race experience once they become Formula One drivers. Berger used to do it when he first started and before that it was common practice for drivers to race in other categories. Make them prove they are not just overpaid primadonnas.

Well let’s see... Senna died in 1994... So we are supposed to hold athletes responsible today to 1994 standards?!? Oh great, so American baseball players can go back to roids and pitchers can go back to drinking coffee mixed with "greenies"!What a complete utter joke!

Back here in 2010 we all have rules we have to follow in our personal lives to stay employed. And one of those for Mark Webber should be NO f***ing MOUNTAIN BIKING!! Or anything else that could obviously lead to injury!!

What’s next from you Euros? Oh come on… He was just ski diving on an off day… what’s wrong with that?