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#228623
Forget secret ballots and vested interests. Say it like it is!! Mark Hughes, technical expert and top writer for Autosport gives his top ten of the season. here it is
1. Hamilton
2.Kubica
3.Alonso
4. Vettel
5.Webber
6.Button
7.Rosberg
8. Barrichello
9.Glock
10.Kobayashi

If you're interested in his reasons for placing drivers where he has, ive typed out his comments on the top four, you can raed them in the next post. If you just want to make arsey comments about Lewis and anyone who recognises his skill and talent, then I recomend you skip the next post and sleep easy :)
P.S. Rational readers may wish to hear his comments on the top four. They're an interseting read.
#228625
TOP FOUR PLACINGS BY MARK HUGHES AND HIS REASONS WHY
Number1. Lewis Hamilton
He made his mistakes-a silly one at monza, a two-to-tango one in Singapore, a brilliantly recovered one in Suzuka practice- towards the end of the season, and so therefore the perception was skewed compared to Alonso, who made more but earlier n the year. In reality, Lewis transcended the level of an ordinary car that wasn’t usually even as good as a Ferrari, and had no business leading the champion as late as the Belgium GP. His highs were higher than anyone else’s and though his brilliance retains a ‘ phew, that was close’ flirting with disaster, and probably always will, he gets away with it far more often than logic says he should. There is not another driver on the grid that would not be shaded in the same car by his stunning speed and occasional capturing of the seemingly impossible.

Number2. Robert Kubica
As usual he made hardly an error worthy of the name while maximising an ordinary car everywhere, and transcending its level on three of the great driver’s tracks- Monte Carlo, Spa, and Suzuka, where he qualified second, third and fourth respectively. Renault knows where its car stacks up against the others regarding aero numbers and engine performance, and makes no secret of the fact that has invariably flattered it. The challenge of doing this, of course, less than fighting for a world championship, so he’s being judged by his playing of an easier game. Yet to know his personality even a little is to be certain he wouldn’t even notice the pressure of a title fight were he ever to get in a cart that would allow it.

Number 3. Fernando Alonso
Once it began to get important, and the taking of a title became tangible, Alonso reverted to being the truly great driver he is. He was relentlessly magnificent in his late chase and brief overhauling of the Red Bull’s. Earlier in the year, he made a lot of errors: his first corner Australia, jumping start in China, twice wrong footed in the traffic of Montreal, hitting the Monaco barriers in Saturday practice. The two halves should be considered as one, with neither having sway over the other, and as such his season was not quite as impressive as the two guys above him in this list. As ever, the way this warrior persona insists that a when rteam gathers itself around him, and only him, created controversy. But actually this is precisely the sort of personality Ferrari needs. For them, he is closer to perfection than any other would be.

Number 4. Sebastian Vettel,
It seems churlish not to place the world champion first. But wonderful season though he had quixotic-quick that he is, untouchable when running at the front the way he is, it shouldn’t be forgotten that he was in a car with a significant performance advantage yet only just clinched it. Yes partly that was down to earl-season unreliability that was nothing to do with him, but also it was about the Turkey collision, the Hungary error behind the safety car and the Spa collision. There was amid-late-seasonperiod whee the frustrations from previous races were affecting his performance. Once he parked that he became the competitive gold standard. He lost Singapore though to the slower car fo Alonso- through nothing more than a small error in qualifying. Such are the tiny margins that separate at this level.
#228627
All these experts know nothing, it's obvious to everyone that Bruno Senna is the best driver of the season... :P

I disagree with Mark, Lewis shouldn't be #1 because he has made a number of mistakes that were of his own making, and (I know RC won't agree) childish outbursts over the radio when things didn't go his way. Same goes for Fernando, too many mistakes and losing his head moments. I believe driver of the season has to go to either Robert Kubica or Nico Rosberg, both had under-performing cars and managed a number of podium finishes while comprehensively outperforming their team mates.
#228629
All these experts know nothing, it's obvious to everyone that Bruno Senna is the best driver of the season... :P

I disagree with Mark, Lewis shouldn't be #1 because he has made a number of mistakes that were of his own making, and (I know RC won't agree) childish outbursts over the radio when things didn't go his way. Same goes for Fernando, too many mistakes and losing his head moments. I believe driver of the season has to go to either Robert Kubica or Nico Rosberg, both had under-performing cars and managed a number of podium finishes while comprehensively outperforming their team mates.


No i dont agree :D
#228631
All these experts know nothing, it's obvious to everyone that Bruno Senna is the best driver of the season... :P

I disagree with Mark, Lewis shouldn't be #1 because he has made a number of mistakes that were of his own making, and (I know RC won't agree) childish outbursts over the radio when things didn't go his way. Same goes for Fernando, too many mistakes and losing his head moments. I believe driver of the season has to go to either Robert Kubica or Nico Rosberg, both had under-performing cars and managed a number of podium finishes while comprehensively outperforming their team mates.


I think I would have to agree with this assessment. Hamilton quite certainly was not the best driver this year and I can't think of any tangible reason to proclaim he was, unless you are a British journalist, writing for a British media and your living comes from pleasing the British people. Not sure I would agree with the Alonso vote by all of the team principals either being that he made mistakes early in the season as well. At least the Alonso argument can be made on the back of a fairly impressive driving effort to come from behind. Lewis' argument would have to be on the back of yet another impressive driving effort to fall from the top. I just don't see it.

Rossberg and Kubi though...I could see that.
#228633
All these experts know nothing, it's obvious to everyone that Bruno Senna is the best driver of the season... :P

I disagree with Mark, Lewis shouldn't be #1 because he has made a number of mistakes that were of his own making, and (I know RC won't agree) childish outbursts over the radio when things didn't go his way. Same goes for Fernando, too many mistakes and losing his head moments. I believe driver of the season has to go to either Robert Kubica or Nico Rosberg, both had under-performing cars and managed a number of podium finishes while comprehensively outperforming their team mates.


I think I would have to agree with this assessment. Hamilton quite certainly was not the best driver this year and I can't think of any tangible reason to proclaim he was, unless you are a British journalist, writing for a British media and your living comes from pleasing the British people. Not sure I would agree with the Alonso vote by all of the team principals either being that he made mistakes early in the season as well. At least the Alonso argument can be made on the back of a fairly impressive driving effort to come from behind. Lewis' argument would have to be on the back of yet another impressive driving effort to fall from the top. I just don't see it.

Rossberg and Kubi though...I could see that.


Bill, of course you cant see it!
#228635
Lewis was the BEST because:
1 he got the best out of his car,hence being a contender to the finish!
2 his teammate wasn't Massa(or his team SF)
3 he never blamed his team,teammate or other drivers (Character A+++)
#228651
It's nice to see Kobayashi in the top 10, I think he deserves to be there. It'd be interesting to know Mark Hughes' reasons for placing Glock 9th though..

Hannah


That was the name that jumped out to me, here's his reasoning :-

The guy who was taking podiums with Toyota two years ago was still very much present in the virgin. His driving has a great terrier-like quality, his racecraft is outstanding and he's frequently be ahead of the faster lotuses once the race started.In terms of qualifying pace his advantage over his team-mate was bigger than anyone's. In the nightmare conditions of Korea he was halfway up the field before taken out by an errant Buemi. watch the opening minutes on a dusty track and he's invariably way further up than the car warrents. teambos john Booth is convinced he's a top six driver and, whilethat may be hard to calibratein a car so far off the front, there was nothing to suggest he wasn't performingto the impressivelevelhe'd reached when in faster machinary.
#228660
I love Lewis simply because he's the most exciting driver on the grid to watch... that's why myself and plenty other have fallen in love with Kobayashi this year as well. I don't think Lewis deserved the best driver of the year as well so I agree with MOA on that one. When it comes to pure talent on the grid today it's still Alonso and Lewis head an shoulders to everyone else, but as far as who got the most consistent drives and got the most out of their car while dealing with the amount of pressure from the media about a 7 time WDC as his team mate... Rosberg gets my vote as this year's best.

EDIT: one page and still not arguments... wonder how long this thread can keep it up. Come on people, let's make this one the anomaly.
By Jack Master
#228664
All these experts know nothing, it's obvious to everyone that Bruno Senna is the best driver of the season... :P

I disagree with Mark, Lewis shouldn't be #1 because he has made a number of mistakes that were of his own making, and (I know RC won't agree) childish outbursts over the radio when things didn't go his way. Same goes for Fernando, too many mistakes and losing his head moments. I believe driver of the season has to go to either Robert Kubica or Nico Rosberg, both had under-performing cars and managed a number of podium finishes while comprehensively outperforming their team mates.


I think I would have to agree with this assessment. Hamilton quite certainly was not the best driver this year and I can't think of any tangible reason to proclaim he was, unless you are a British journalist, writing for a British media and your living comes from pleasing the British people. Not sure I would agree with the Alonso vote by all of the team principals either being that he made mistakes early in the season as well. At least the Alonso argument can be made on the back of a fairly impressive driving effort to come from behind. Lewis' argument would have to be on the back of yet another impressive driving effort to fall from the top. I just don't see it.

Rossberg and Kubi though...I could see that.


I agree totally with you. We also need to see Rosberg, Kubica and Kobayashi under the pressure of winning a WDC but they look well.
#228665
Who gives a s*** about these polls of who was the best be it team principals or the media if they carried any weight we would go with out the points system. The best driver of the year was Vettel, he is world Champion!
#228666
Oh frickin great another thread to :censored::censored::censored::censored::irked::hehe: .
Kinda sad isn't it? :wavey:

Rename the thread 'Delicate Ego's' and it could have a spin :whip: .


:thud: Noooooooooooooooo Tex :nono::nono: This is not a thread for you, it will over excite you. You should read the instructions on the bottle.....and not open :wink:
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