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#228443
McLaren chief engineer Tim Goss is quoted on the McLaren web site blog as confirming that the MP4-25 was indeed the 2nd fastest car in 2010, just behind the RB6.

The blog provides stats on how much faster the MP4-25 was than Ferrari's F10 - by Tim's reckoning the difference was way over a tenth of a second per race lap! He also points out that the McLaren team delivered, based on race-pace, the fastest car (yes, according to him that includes the RB6!) for no fewer than 7 races in 2010.

Here's the content of the blog:-
An email from Tim Goss pinged into the inbox this morning. ‘Car pace – who was second quickest?’ read the subject line.

Tim’s an extremely competitive guy. His email said it all: “I don’t like being second-quickest,” he wrote. “Worse still, is being told incorrectly that we’re third-quickest.”

His displeasure stemmed from several recent reports firmly contending that our MP4-25 car was the season’s third-fastest chassis. Not true, wrote Tim, and – like any good engineer – he had the data to back it up.

Over the course of the 2010 season, said Tim, our qualifying pace was just 0.001s per lap slower than third-placed Ferrari – negligible. On race pace alone, he asserted, the MP4-25 was actually 0.136s per lap quicker than the Ferrari.

Overall, then, this means our car was 0.074s per lap faster than the Ferrari.

So, while Tim still wasn’t happy that we were only second-quickest (nobody here needs to be reminded that ‘second is first of the losers’), he took some comfort from demonstrating that we weren’t any lower.

Of equal interest was his analysis of our pace in comparison to the season’s fastest car – the Red Bull RB6. While that car was emphatically the class of the field, and we were only able to best it on two occasions in qualifying (at Montreal and Monza), our race-pace was actually better at no less than seven grands prix: Bahrain, Australia, China, Canada, Belgium, Italy and Abu Dhabi.

What, if anything, does this tell us? Firstly, that Tim Goss hates being beaten. Secondly, that everybody here shares that attitude, and we’re all working as hard as we can to make MP4-26 a world-beater when it’s launched early next year.
#228446
Well ofcourse if he considers Massas quali and race performances


Based on fastest not average mate. :)
#228450
The fastest is chosen. FiA produces lap times for every driver/race/lap, including for Q.
#228453
Well ofcourse if he considers Massas quali and race performances


Based on fastest not average mate. :)

So he chose 1 car?


yes the fastest one.

Thanks,that was my 1st thought!
#228456
I must admit that i thought that mclaren from germany onwards only had the 3rd fastest car, (bar spa, monza and abu dhabi), but up till that point they did genuily look the second fastest car
#228457
I must admit that i thought that mclaren from germany onwards only had the 3rd fastest car, (bar spa, monza and abu dhabi), but up till that point they did genuily look the second fastest car


Yeah thats the way i feel as well. I think races like Turkey pulled down Ferrari a fair bit in his statistical view. McLaren really only had Canada where you can say they had a dominant race, Spa was hard to say because of the wet conditions. But compared to Ferrari where they had Germany Singapore Monza where they had the better car even over RedBull.
#228459
Yet they drivers didn't manage more than 4th & 5th! Maybe it's time for fresh faces :yes:
#228460
Yet they drivers didn't manage more than 4th & 5th! Maybe it's time for fresh faces :yes:


And who would you suggest?
#228463
Yet they drivers didn't manage more than 4th & 5th! Maybe it's time for fresh faces :yes:


And who would you suggest?


Me for starter :hehe:
#228465
Yet they drivers didn't manage more than 4th & 5th! Maybe it's time for fresh faces :yes:


And who would you suggest?


Me for starter :hehe:


:rofl::rofl:
#228467
Yet they drivers didn't manage more than 4th & 5th! Maybe it's time for fresh faces :yes:


And who would you suggest?


Me for starter :hehe:


:rofl::rofl:


And I'll do it for $100K.
#228469
Yet they drivers didn't manage more than 4th & 5th! Maybe it's time for fresh faces :yes:


the drivers got them 2nd in the constructors and will wear numbers 3 and 4. Ferrari on the other hand will wear 5 and 6. Theres some facts for you factboy.

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