FORUMula1.com - F1 Forum

Discuss the sport you love with other motorsport fans

Formula One related discussion.
User avatar
By bud
#22455
i dunno about you but photochopping the physical world is abit hard ;)
So basically because of the car Hamilton scored the same points in a season as a double world champion? im sure every other driver on the grid would have done the same
no doubt
By Mikep99
#22456
i dunno about you but photochopping the physical world is abit hard ;)
So basically because of the car Hamilton scored the same points in a season as a double world champion? im sure every other driver on the grid would have done the same
no doubt


No not every other driver just a few. And this is not for sure either as I don't assume to know everything like some.
It's called an opinion which really doesn't mean much in the real world but I am sorry to burst your bubble Bud yours doesn’t either. :roll:
User avatar
By bud
#22461
yet you dont have an answer to why he scored the exact same amount of points as Alonso and on count back finished higher than him in the championship.
so yes the car helped him fight for wins and podiums but even if the car was a dog he would have still been fighting Alonso who is a double world champion.

so the people who like to think Hamiltons achievments thus far are down to his car should really look at who he had to beat in the SAME CAR to get there!

simple simple simple ;)
By Mikep99
#22463
yet you dont have an answer to why he scored the exact same amount of points as Alonso and on count back finished higher than him in the championship.
so yes the car helped him fight for wins and podiums but even if the car was a dog he would have still been fighting Alonso who is a double world champion.

so the people who like to think Hamiltons achievments thus far are down to his car should really look at who he had to beat in the SAME CAR to get there!

simple simple simple ;)


“simple simple simpleâ€
User avatar
By bud
#22464
haha i knew you would go that route with the simple remark, youre too predictable already mike, thats boring!

all im saying is you think other drivers are just as good as Fernando Alonso then? for the others to do just a good a job as Lewis would mean they are capable of matching or bettering Alonso. so why not name names instead of hiding behind the "a few others" tag.

And by your thinking alot of other drivers would have done the same job as Schumacher i mean it was just the car afterall. esoecially when he didnt have a team mate to worry about ;)
User avatar
By onelapdown
#22466
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see Rosberg better Hamilton, but I'd be less surprised to see Hamilton beat Rosberg. One fact I haven't seen mentioned is that Rosberg was European karting's hottest property until Hamilton came along and beat him in the same machinery... That said, Hamilton got bogged down in the junior car formulae but Rosberg didn't. They both won the GP2 title for the same ART team - it'd be interesting to find out what they'd have to say on the matter.

I WOULD, however, be surprised to see Ron prize Rosberg out of Frank Williams' cold dead hands, as without the German they would struggle to make any progress back to the sharp end.
By Mikep99
#22467
haha i knew you would go that route with the simple remark, youre too predictable already mike, thats boring!

all im saying is you think other drivers are just as good as Fernando Alonso then? for the others to do just a good a job as Lewis would mean they are capable of matching or bettering Alonso. so why not name names instead of hiding behind the "a few others" tag.

And by your thinking alot of other drivers would have done the same job as Schumacher i mean it was just the car afterall. esoecially when he didnt have a team mate to worry about ;)


It was just there waiting/begging for it bud I could not resist, & its not any more predictable than your fag gag on the other post mate. Or was that one of those famous knockout punch line I hear about?

Your right bud it also applies to FA but all the hype is about LH isn't it.
Why would I be hiding behind the "few other tags" ??? Its NR, HK & RK all very goods prospects if you must know.

Yes Schumacher did not have a team mate to worry about but if you look at the records you will see that he didn’t really need too.
The number 2 drivers he had were just that No 2’s. If FA or LH were his partner then it would be a different story.
User avatar
By bud
#22468
Kubica failed to beat Nick Heidfeld in the same car i would highly doubt he would bother Alonso.

Heikki well he had Fissi as a teamy so wheres the competition there and never matched Alonso in testing times when they were in the same team in 06.

Nico was consistent enough out of the ones you have mentioned but in the past he failed to beat Lewis when teamed together in Karts - pure form of racing
By Mikep99
#22469
Kubica failed to beat Nick Heidfeld in the same car i would highly doubt he would bother Alonso.

Heikki well he had Fissi as a teamy so wheres the competition there and never matched Alonso in testing times when they were in the same team in 06.

Nico was consistent enough out of the ones you have mentioned but in the past he failed to beat Lewis when teamed together in Karts - pure form of racing


bud, lets wait and see who he gets as a partner & then lets sit back and see what happens in the coming year/s.
I think its going to be a hell of a ride.
He may well be the greatest driver of all time one day. But some people are already proclaimed him that, which I don’t think he has earned especially seeing that he has had a free chariot ride to one of the best seats in the house.
Just say his chariot is as good as Nico’s was this year, will this hype stick around?

He was at the right place at the right time. And of coarse has the skill but not the maturity to nearly pull it off.
He had nothing to loose this year because of no expectations so the pressure was not on. But he will be expected to win it next year & we have seen what LH is like under real pressure, but then again he will have grown from his major mistakes this year so lets wait and see.
User avatar
By darwin dali
#22471
bud, lets wait and see who he gets as a partner & then lets sit back and see what happens in the coming year/s.

so lets wait and see.


You sound like Kimi in the interviews :wink:
User avatar
By onelapdown
#22472
Whadaya mean "wait and see"? what's the point of the close season if you can't speculate??!! That fence confortable, is it?
By Mikep99
#22473
bud, lets wait and see who he gets as a partner & then lets sit back and see what happens in the coming year/s.

so lets wait and see.


You sound like Kimi in the interviews :wink:


Well everything else is just opinions & speculation isn't it. It’s a waste of time getting worked up about it.
Lets wait and see, Kimi sounds like a smart man. :wink:
By Mikep99
#22474
Whadaya mean "wait and see"? what's the point of the close season if you can't speculate??!! That fence confortable, is it?


You read my OPINION so you know what side of the fence I am on, but I am not going to go on endlessly about it am I.
It gets to a point where "lets wait and see" is the only answer. Unless you know more than everyone else or you like arguing that is. :wink:
User avatar
By onelapdown
#22476
Well I do like arguing - it's certainly preferable to hearing nothing but "wait and see" between now and March... :)
User avatar
By racechick
#22477
Look at their teammates and how they showed against them, Now look at who their team mates have beaten or bean beaten by, Lewis comes out easily on top.

See our F1 related articles too!