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[billindenver]

"Even after the race in Germany" Thats a very telling statement.

What is it telling? Do you believe there is some sort of secret out there that you are trying to unearth? Like, oh my god...do you think there might be team orders out there in F1 land afterall?

There are. And your team is using them just as effectively as all the rest.

[racechick]

Of course there are team orders. Ferrari were found guilty of them

What's telling is that Massa didnt move over of his own accord as Ferrari tried to claim when they lied to the stewards.

[myownalias]

If we can take anything from Germany, it'd be that teams orders are fine as long as you have the required fee of $100,000!

[texasmr2]

Wait a second so I can wrap my mind around this, there are team orders in F1 I thought they were banned !!

[myownalias]

Wait a second so I can wrap my mind around this, there are team orders in F1 I thought they were banned !!

...for a special introductory offer price of €100,000 per use*

*This season only as team orders will be FREE as of Bahrain 2011!

[spankyham]

If Ferrari win the WDC this year, please oh please let it be by less than 7

[myownalias]

If Ferrari win the WDC this year, please oh please let it be by less than 7

And let the chaos ensue. I have already ordered my flame resistant suit!

[What's Burning?]

Hello hello hello... is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? Being right is more important than knowing the truth.

[bud]

If Ferrari win the WDC this year, please oh please let it be by less than 7

Yeah Ferrari win the drivers title... not Fernando.

Kinda defeats the purpose having a driver win the title when he needs help doing so doesnt it? I wouldnt be so happy about it if I were you.

[spankyham]

If the possibility of winning by 7 is this sweet, I just can't image how sweet it will be if Ferrari can actually pull off another championship this year

[darwin dali]

Hello hello hello... is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me. Is there anyone at home? Being right is more important than knowing the truth.

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[bud]

someone will be pulling off...

[racechick]

Oh I do do do hope that IF Alonso 'wins' (cough), its by less than 7, Then I can just simply discount the win Hollow victory, inadequate victor

[bud]

This is a bit of bs if you ask me.

A Brazilian prosecutor has warned Felipe Massa that he could be arrested and sentenced to up to six years in prison if he takes team orders to help Ferrari teammate Fernando Alonso win the Formula One title.

Massa could be charged with fraud if he allows Alonso to pass him or if he does anything else that would somehow alter the result of Sunday's race in Interlagos, according to prosecutor Paulo Castilho, known for taking up sports causes in Brazil.

"Massa or any other driver who does anything to fraud the result of the race can be arrested and formally charged," he told The Associated Press on Thursday. "It doesn't mean that it will happen, it will be up to the local authority in charge of the event to decide whether the law has been broken."

The law mentioned by Castilho says that it's a crime to "fraud by any means, or contribute to fraud, in any way, the result of a sporting event."

Massa arrived at the Brazilian Grand Prix saying he would give way to his teammate if needed on Sunday, just like he did while leading the German GP in July so Alonso could earn more points in the race for the title.

"I would do it again, I'm a professional driver," Massa said earlier this week.

The move in Germany prompted F1 officials to fine Ferrari $100,000 for using team orders, but none of the drivers' were punished. Massa was heavily criticized by some fans and local media for relinquishing that victory.

He dismissed any problems with fans, however, if he is required to help Alonso again this weekend.

"Even after the race in Germany, when I arrived in Brazil, the people were very nice with me, very fantastic, pushing me forward," he said.

Massa's situation is akin to 2007, when he led the season-ending Brazilian GP but pitted early to allow teammate Kimi Raikkonen into the lead, giving the Finn the race victory that clinched the world title by a single point.

Alonso can win the title if he wins Sunday's race and Red Bull's Mark Webber finishes fifth or worse. He can also clinch the title by finishing second if Webber is eighth or worse, McLaren's Lewis Hamilton fourth or worse and Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel third or worse.

"If there is enough evidence showing that the team orders are affecting the result unfairly, the local authority can make the arrests of those involved," Castilho said.

Alonso has 231 points with two races to go, 11 points more than Webber, 21 more than Hamilton and 25 ahead of Vettel. Massa is not in contention for the title.

Alonso said he is hoping that Massa runs well enough to win the final two races of the season, keeping his rivals from getting the victories.

"It's best to have Felipe winning the races because then he is taking 25 points away from everybody else," the Spaniard said.

Massa and Ferrari officials could not be reached to comment on the prosecutor's warning.

The prosecutor's warning against team orders was first reported by the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper, Brazil's largest.

Massa could be charged with fraud if he allows Alonso to pass him or if he does anything else that would somehow alter the result of Sunday's race in Interlagos, according to prosecutor Paulo Castilho, known for taking up sports causes in Brazil.

"Massa or any other driver who does anything to fraud the result of the race can be arrested and formally charged," he told The Associated Press on Thursday. "It doesn't mean that it will happen, it will be up to the local authority in charge of the event to decide whether the law has been broken."

The law mentioned by Castilho says that it's a crime to "fraud by any means, or contribute to fraud, in any way, the result of a sporting event."

Massa arrived at the Brazilian Grand Prix saying he would give way to his teammate if needed on Sunday, just like he did while leading the German GP in July so Alonso could earn more points in the race for the title.

"I would do it again, I'm a professional driver," Massa said earlier this week.

The move in Germany prompted F1 officials to fine Ferrari $100,000 for using team orders, but none of the drivers' were punished. Massa was heavily criticized by some fans and local media for relinquishing that victory.

He dismissed any problems with fans, however, if he is required to help Alonso again this weekend.

"Even after the race in Germany, when I arrived in Brazil, the people were very nice with me, very fantastic, pushing me forward," he said.

Massa's situation is akin to 2007, when he led the season-ending Brazilian GP but pitted early to allow teammate Kimi Raikkonen into the lead, giving the Finn the race victory that clinched the world title by a single point.

Alonso can win the title if he wins Sunday's race and Red Bull's Mark Webber finishes fifth or worse. He can also clinch the title by finishing second if Webber is eighth or worse, McLaren's Lewis Hamilton fourth or worse and Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel third or worse.

"If there is enough evidence showing that the team orders are affecting the result unfairly, the local authority can make the arrests of those involved," Castilho said.

Alonso has 231 points with two races to go, 11 points more than Webber, 21 more than Hamilton and 25 ahead of Vettel. Massa is not in contention for the title.

Alonso said he is hoping that Massa runs well enough to win the final two races of the season, keeping his rivals from getting the victories.

"It's best to have Felipe winning the races because then he is taking 25 points away from everybody else," the Spaniard said.

Massa and Ferrari officials could not be reached to comment on the prosecutor's warning.

The prosecutor's warning against team orders was first reported by the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper, Brazil's largest.

[Robert12010]

This is a bit of bs if you ask me.

A Brazilian prosecutor has warned Felipe Massa that he could be arrested and sentenced to up to six years in prison if he takes team orders to help Ferrari teammate Fernando Alonso win the Formula One title.

Massa could be charged with fraud if he allows Alonso to pass him or if he does anything else that would somehow alter the result of Sunday's race in Interlagos, according to prosecutor Paulo Castilho, known for taking up sports causes in Brazil.

"Massa or any other driver who does anything to fraud the result of the race can be arrested and formally charged," he told The Associated Press on Thursday. "It doesn't mean that it will happen, it will be up to the local authority in charge of the event to decide whether the law has been broken."

The law mentioned by Castilho says that it's a crime to "fraud by any means, or contribute to fraud, in any way, the result of a sporting event."

Massa arrived at the Brazilian Grand Prix saying he would give way to his teammate if needed on Sunday, just like he did while leading the German GP in July so Alonso could earn more points in the race for the title.
what a load of total rubbish!

"I would do it again, I'm a professional driver," Massa said earlier this week.

The move in Germany prompted F1 officials to fine Ferrari $100,000 for using team orders, but none of the drivers' were punished. Massa was heavily criticized by some fans and local media for relinquishing that victory.

He dismissed any problems with fans, however, if he is required to help Alonso again this weekend.

"Even after the race in Germany, when I arrived in Brazil, the people were very nice with me, very fantastic, pushing me forward," he said.

Massa's situation is akin to 2007, when he led the season-ending Brazilian GP but pitted early to allow teammate Kimi Raikkonen into the lead, giving the Finn the race victory that clinched the world title by a single point.

Alonso can win the title if he wins Sunday's race and Red Bull's Mark Webber finishes fifth or worse. He can also clinch the title by finishing second if Webber is eighth or worse, McLaren's Lewis Hamilton fourth or worse and Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel third or worse.

"If there is enough evidence showing that the team orders are affecting the result unfairly, the local authority can make the arrests of those involved," Castilho said.

Alonso has 231 points with two races to go, 11 points more than Webber, 21 more than Hamilton and 25 ahead of Vettel. Massa is not in contention for the title.

Alonso said he is hoping that Massa runs well enough to win the final two races of the season, keeping his rivals from getting the victories.

"It's best to have Felipe winning the races because then he is taking 25 points away from everybody else," the Spaniard said.

Massa and Ferrari officials could not be reached to comment on the prosecutor's warning.

The prosecutor's warning against team orders was first reported by the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper, Brazil's largest.

Massa could be charged with fraud if he allows Alonso to pass him or if he does anything else that would somehow alter the result of Sunday's race in Interlagos, according to prosecutor Paulo Castilho, known for taking up sports causes in Brazil.

"Massa or any other driver who does anything to fraud the result of the race can be arrested and formally charged," he told The Associated Press on Thursday. "It doesn't mean that it will happen, it will be up to the local authority in charge of the event to decide whether the law has been broken."

The law mentioned by Castilho says that it's a crime to "fraud by any means, or contribute to fraud, in any way, the result of a sporting event."

Massa arrived at the Brazilian Grand Prix saying he would give way to his teammate if needed on Sunday, just like he did while leading the German GP in July so Alonso could earn more points in the race for the title.

"I would do it again, I'm a professional driver," Massa said earlier this week.

The move in Germany prompted F1 officials to fine Ferrari $100,000 for using team orders, but none of the drivers' were punished. Massa was heavily criticized by some fans and local media for relinquishing that victory.

He dismissed any problems with fans, however, if he is required to help Alonso again this weekend.

"Even after the race in Germany, when I arrived in Brazil, the people were very nice with me, very fantastic, pushing me forward," he said.

Massa's situation is akin to 2007, when he led the season-ending Brazilian GP but pitted early to allow teammate Kimi Raikkonen into the lead, giving the Finn the race victory that clinched the world title by a single point.

Alonso can win the title if he wins Sunday's race and Red Bull's Mark Webber finishes fifth or worse. He can also clinch the title by finishing second if Webber is eighth or worse, McLaren's Lewis Hamilton fourth or worse and Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel third or worse.

"If there is enough evidence showing that the team orders are affecting the result unfairly, the local authority can make the arrests of those involved," Castilho said.

Alonso has 231 points with two races to go, 11 points more than Webber, 21 more than Hamilton and 25 ahead of Vettel. Massa is not in contention for the title.

Alonso said he is hoping that Massa runs well enough to win the final two races of the season, keeping his rivals from getting the victories.

"It's best to have Felipe winning the races because then he is taking 25 points away from everybody else," the Spaniard said.

Massa and Ferrari officials could not be reached to comment on the prosecutor's warning.

The prosecutor's warning against team orders was first reported by the Folha de S. Paulo newspaper, Brazil's largest.